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More guns could have prevented US uni massacre: advocates

Gun advocates in the United States say last week's massacre at Virginia Tech university may not have happened if students were allowed to carry concealed guns on campus.

"This is a huge nail in the coffin of gun control," said Philip Van Cleave, president of the gun rights group Virginia Citizens Defence League.

"They had gun control on campus and it got all those people killed, because nobody could defend themselves," he told AFP.

"You want people to be able to defend themselves - always," he said.

Thirty-two people were killed when student Cho Seung-Hui went on the rampage in the worst campus massacre in US history.

Mr Van Cleave said the tragedy could give a boost to a years-long effort in Virginia to pass legislation allowing students to carry weapons on campus - especially since existing laws failed to prevent Cho's murderous rampage.

"Gun control failed. That student under university rules was not to have a gun," Van Cleave said.

"Come legislative season, which is in January, we're going to be fighting to get a bill put in again - the third year in a row now and hopefully this time it will pass - that would let students that are over 21 with a permit ... carry concealed self-defence," he said.

The bill, which would also allow any faculty member possessing a concealed carry permit to carry a concealed weapon, has a "greatly enhanced" chance of passage following the Virginia Tech shooting, Mr Van Cleave said.

The south-eastern state where the shootings took place allows anyone 21 years of age or older and holding a concealed handgun permit to carry a weapon.

That is not true, however, of college campuses, where most universities have a strict prohibition against carrying guns.

Other gun rights advocates echo Mr Van Cleave's view that had even one Virginia Tech student or faculty member been armed, last week's carnage might have been prevented.

"The only person who is responsible to defend you is you - the police are incapable of defending each and every one of us all the time," said Mike Stollenwerk, 44, co-founder of OpenCarry.org, a Virginia-based gun-rights networking group.

"Citizens have an inherent right to be able to defend themselves," he told the Washington Times newspaper.

"You can't always have a policeman on every street corner to take care of you. Whenever you have a bunch of gun-control laws that prohibit people from carrying, the ones with the guns are the criminals."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1904169.htm

That's got to be a joke son! Showdown at the oval 12 O'clock high the brat Vs bigger brat. Conflict over who owns the ruler?

Every student then has to undergo training how to behave in a gun incident, like fully flexed swat team skills, before they enrol to study.

War criminal John Howard outlines vision for 2020?

[But how could he do that at the Interntional Criminal Court facing war crimes charges against humanity?]

Prime Minister John Howard has delivered the first in a series of speeches, outlining the Coalition's agenda for the future....?

[War, war you bloody well war you got a bloody right to war?]

[Nukiller, nukiller, you bloody well nukiller you got a bloody right to nukiller?]

[I haven't looked at it myself yet..Hang on!]

Oh! War criminal John Howard has addressed the Queensland Media Club in Brisbane with a speech titled 'Australia Rising'.

He says it is important to understand what the world will look like in the year 2020, in order to develop effective policies for the future.

Howard believes the human face of globalisation will increasingly be Asian and middle class and he says it will be crucial to keep building the strength of the Australian economy.

[More Asian and middle class investments agreements?]

Howard says Labor's plan to axe the WorkChoices legislation would damage the economy, destroy jobs and weaken Australia's position in a fiercely competitive world.

He says building a stronger and more competitive economy is one of his key priorities for the future, and next month's Budget will focus on keeping the economy strong and the nation secure.

Mr Howard also attacked Labor's financial credentials, accusing the Opposition of being bereft of a credible economic agenda in an election year.

"Labor in 11 years has still not developed a coherent alternative plan to keep the Australian economy strong, which is the fundamental responsibility of both sides of politics in 2007," he said.

Work, work you bloody well work you got no rights at work?

Capitalist, capitalist, you bloody well capitalist you got a bloody right to enslave?

Money, money, you bloody well money you got a bloody right to steal?

Meanwhile floposition Leader Kevin Rudd the dud will also be campaigning in Brisbane this afternoon after returning from a trip to the United States [after going down on Rupert Murdoch for lunch?]

[But don't be fazed because Kevin Rudd the dud was always going to throw the election because he's the fallguy and the very reason Howard the war criminal stayed on.]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1904255.htm

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by stupid greedy vulgar ugly American Tuesday April 24, 2007 at 04:26 PM

"The image you see here might lead you to believe that the child in the picture has been made "glad" and secure thanks to the U.S. troop presence in Iraq. As "El Gringo" discovered, however, Lindy Eddy doctored the photograph. The original photo, taken by a journalist, depicted a young girl who had just received bullet wounds during a firefight in which her mother was killed and her father was wounded. Eddy doctored the photo by erasing the little girl's own face (which carries the listless expression you would expect from an injured child) and replacing it with someone else's face to make her look positively radiant and adoring."