Sydney Morning Herald video looks fair on Cheney protest : Melbourne Indymedia

Here are the links on their website this morning:

# Video: Police clash with protesters

at link

http://media.fairfax.com.au/?rid=25946

And notice the less than critical coverage of the protesting public at the visit of a war criminal here:

"Cheney flies in to a war of words

Dick Cheney 6:53am | The US Vice-President arrives in Sydney amid tight security as eight protesters arrested for unlawful protest action. "

at

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cheney-flies-in-to-a-war-of-words/2007/02/22/1171733955282.html

and even at News Ltd Cheney is on the nose here:

"Cheney police protest

MORE than 1200 police are being pulled off Sydney's streets to guard visiting US Vice-President Dick Cheney, costing taxpayers up to $2 million."

at

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21271705-5011900,00.html

[ps for indy followers sydneyalternativemedia/blog is running at 4500+ a month up from 2800/m and still 5 days of short month to go. Yet we still look forward to SIM's return (?).]

Hey tom lets be fair. Because as you say they,

"Sydney Morning Herald video looks fair on Cheney protest"

You mean when you read Mess Media crap that only sometimes it looks fair?

So why do you bring the mess media to this site? And rely upon the same for your information?

Why do you believe them when they make their choices for you?

They're promoting anything that will promote Labor at the moment.

Do you get the picture my friend?

Because they've chosen Labor this time then they will promote the protest even more so. But if they'd have chosen Liberal like they did last federal election and prior the war then you wouldn't have seen anything about the Cheney protest against the war would you?

The reason is why?

Please read this for simple people!

Bush (Custer) Last Stand In Iraq - War Drums in Washington

The majority of American citizens have the delusion that they actually decide who governs them, when in practice the Democrats and Republicans are only two wings of the same ruling class that owns Congress, just as it owns the land, the banks and big corporations, the newspapers, and radio and television companies.

As a rule the big capitalists prefer the Republicans, the natural party of Big Business and therefore, the natural party of government. The Republicans stand (or used to stand) for cheap government, low taxes, less government interference in business, a strong dollar, balanced budgets.

This is the kind of programme Big Business - especially finance capital - likes. But occasionally, a Republican government can get into trouble.

Then Big Business calls on the services of its reserve party - the Democrats. It shifts nimbly from the right foot to the left foot, without for a single moment relinquishing a single atom of its power over the affairs of the nation.

Therefore, when George W Bush came to power (by highly questionable methods), the champagne bottles were undoubtedly popping in Wall Street. Here was a President in their very image of the American ruling class: crude, ignorant, narrow minded, provincial. All right, so he can hardly put two sentences together, but after all, he is one of ours. He made all the right noises: tax cuts, make the poor work, cut wasteful state expenditure (i.e. welfare) and so on.

Oh, this was music to their ears! And when he ordered the invasion of Iraq, this also seemed good for Business at the time, and as everybody knows, what is good for Business is good for America.

But now things have changed. The war did not work out as planned and is already deeply unpopular in the USA. Many Republicans are now expressing doubt about the war. The only Republican candidate to give vocal support to the "surge" is right winger John McCain. Other candidates, some more, some less, are calling for a withdrawal. But Bush remains obdurate. He has refused to accept the verdict of the Iraq Study Group and is acting against the collective interests of the ruling class. This will seal his fate.

http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2007/02/139901.php

This is independant media not a right, wing blog!

They have their own blog!

Now don't be a dog!

The senior coppers are in a bit of bind, that is

which they dislike the most

- pompous VP goons with their own guns in disrespect of their NSW Police Force command and control of the CBD (their turf), not to mention nightmare of security for a warmonger, not to mention disastrous congestion after QM2 embarrassment, hence Assistant Commissioner Terry Collins referring sharply to "Cheney" on early morn 702 yesterday, not 'VP', not 'Dick Cheney', which thus had a tone of referring to a 'Mussolini' or a 'Pinochet'. In this regard Policeman Collins is oh so right.

or

- the problematic (for them) left wing protesters with very very exceptional cases of the violent or angry young men not representative in fact, and a cheap shot for the tv cameras. Hence the importance of the video evidence on the SMH and context of the lawful assembly applications and yes lawful desire to march down George St, and indeed the general public agreement with the protest against a war criminal fraudster (as found by a USA congressional committee no less recently).

...because you are a hypocrite Tom

an unethical creep who supports liars and neo-Nazi tactics

just so you know

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At 42 I can say I have been once a (not very) angry young man until I read about Gandhi's way of change in 1992 here:

http://cpppcltrust.tripod.com/ecologyactionsydney/id14.html

The point is, the angry young men are a free kick to the 'dog' Big Media you refer to, as proven last night on tv re Cheney protests.

Second I am practical about my information sources. Being lawyerly I deconstruct the work they do for my information purposes. Yes it is limited in that sense, which is why I supplement with my own work to the extent I can finance and access it at the heart of Australian political power in Sydney CBD in the biggest state in Australia.

As per my sydneyalternativemedia/blog gallery on the Iemma launch recently.

Thirdly, it would be a mistake tactically to think the underlings in Big Media are actually against more honest community media. The lower you go and younger often down to journalism school the more free thinking and sympathetic these folks are free still of mortgages, child dependents and yes flattery of Big Media wages turning them into value free hierarchical sell outs.

Like indeed any big organisational structure. In short I am a subversive I just don't rant ineffectually on a police line, because I am simply too educated to bother. So I say take a sophisticated approach to the institutional power opponents.

Fourthly, as learned in jurisprudence in 1989 ANU taught by a good lefty lawyer the good marxists themselves point out that The Law is a curious creature which often enacts rules in favour of big corporations but 'like a spiders web tends to wrap around and entangle the same corporate interests spinning it' thus caught in their own tricks to the benefit of the public interest and the downtrodden. At least the chance of justice. So I believe it is with Big Media turning it back on itself. Like Ju Jitsu the biggest and fastest hits the wall hardest with a little nudge. Thus many lefties will tell you the most reliable information is in the bastions of capitalism like the Financial Review absent the tedious rhetoric (though it is there too).

Fifthly also as my sledge of Antony Green shows earlier this morning I am on the case of Big Media all the time. Pell yesterday, MDevine and Fluffy Duffy last week. I mean what do you want from me? I refuse to listen to Alan Jones, that would be mental abuse, but I coud and do him in but I have my standards. I leave that to Chris Masters and Quentin Dempster.

So I agree too I criticise the ABC more than they really deserve in context because I prefer to listen and watch their quality work, and similarly much of Herald and Australian where intellect is partially on display, partially not. Besides if you can't meet their arguments on their terms you got nothing, you are irrelevant.

Lastly, this is not a job application to run a rebooted SIM. They lost me in 2002 and I haven't seen anything to change my mind yet.

M i c k,

just ask yourself how many positive relationships are you having on the journey in this veil of tears?

and maybe

what can I do differently to find that positive constructive experience amongst the troubles?

Is it really always someone else, or the choices you are making?

That looks a little dishonest to me. Let's you off alot of personal responsibility? Pretty convenient.

Sure such personal reflection is painful. Absolutely. No one said maturity was easy. Some can't do it and turn schitzo.

Good luck, because it genuinely is a veil of tears but we choose the sunlight too.

Your defining your action and your self by who has done you wrong, who you hate and who you are going to get revenge on.

But you won't get peace of mind which we all need until you get to defining your time and your action by positive actions that you take that feeds your self respect.

At some point you will have to let go grievances to have time for the positive. Start off with the easy simple stuff. Exercise. Simple chores. Cleaning, whatever. Your mind will relax and your body will get tired. You will sleep well. Then you will have inspired constructive positive ideas in the time out from the subconscious. Then you will gain more personal confidence and self respect fitting your smarts and talent.

Then the grievances ... won't matter because you will navigate them all like a slalom skier on happy dusty snow.

Good luck, and stay off the booze, it's a huge deceiver, takes you lower than where you started.

I hate no-one - I hate what they do

Your advice is crap

I am an innocent person

You are defaming me

Some lawyer you are

I have court in 3 hours - NT Supreme Court- I'll deal with your gibberish later

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I did not doubt you will which I why I offered my "gibberish" in an honest response.

As for your hearing, in my experience the best thing about talking in court is to remember to breathe and not be rushed by the other side or the process.

Definitely take speaking notes as you appear so you can check off each point you need to say without missing anything. (It's hard even for a lawyer to represent themself, and they tend to recommend against it for good reason, the emotion unsettling the thoughts.)

And go for the plausible in a conservative forum.

Stop being right because sometimes you'r so very wrong!

Being right means being right all the time but being wrong and right means being right in the end/

Ps) While you filibustered this material has been posted world wide.

Just get out of your square! If you want to?

Police Violence at Sydney Anti-Cheney Carnival

Thursday, February 22, 2007: 10 arrested by violent thugs as Cheney protesters gather in Sydney

http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2007/02/140738.php

As it is Law, as it is Big Media, so it is Big Mick:

"you are defaming me" you say.

Maybe so. But I read this at the outset:

"..because you are a hypocrite Tom

an unethical creep who supports liars and neo-Nazi tactics"

Well thanks very much. Defamation as opening gambit, right off the blocks and then the effrontery to complain about your sensitivities. Looks pretty dishonest approach to me. Good for the goose, not the gander. You really know how to trash talk there but is it boring?

What it is, actually is your choice. You chose that start out. That negativity. That extreme characterisation of my work. It isn't even leavened with orginality.

I'm sure you could have disagreed with my piece (I know I could have constructed a counter to my own views in a moot way) without defaming me at all. But it is so habitual it seems from the critic I just don't even feel offended or concerned regular readers of MIM will believe you. I am comfortable to repeat the nastiness even.

So if you are 50 and no substance abuse (?) then you are a quandary to be so unhappy. Nor am I a social worker or similar expert to really help much further. Good luck in court, if indeed you deserve the luck.

Truth is I looked up at the clock at 5.15 pm last night, after a 4 am start same day delivering City Hubs for 2 hours, then other media monitoring work, and thought Oh I should go. But I wanted to finish my piece on

'Thursday, 22 February 2007
Morris's ministers and the NSW Gun Club 5% Hansonite redneck vote'

here

http://sydneyalternativemedia.com/blog/index.blog?topic_id=1083881

But that's not the only reason. I knew in a formulaic way it would be like other police/protester choreography and shouting with images much like the post you proudly refer to above. Yes it is a strong post, great pics above but spare my the bragging. My congratulations. But no more or less than my work last Sunday at the Iemma ALP election launch. I can't do it everytime, and nor should I have to. It was totally predictable outcome anyway made clear by copper Terry Collins at 6.50 am earlier same day on Adam Spencer show.

And please don't presume to know the totality of my activist scope experience or day to day work like some smart alec snot nose junior. It's shallow and unwarranted. If you hate sourcing of Big Media fine, I disagree over the utility. Actually I am all about building big media of a green and progressive nature to replace the current Big Media. It's not fillibustering. It is workable transition, and cherry picking, and it is indeed subversion which I can amply demonstrate another time with language of mine borrowed and stolen turning up there.

Indeed reform of politics to sustainability is dependent on replacement of big media but MIM is minor, probably micro, (what are the readership figures?) so please be realistic.

Now I am off to do legal checking for ARTV for community tv as per the last 44 weeks. Get the picture?

a moderate middle aged woman calls in and says 'the media reports didn't show that we marched peacefully, like the police tried to stop us do, anyway. Why didn't they report that?'

Good point lady, and also slightly incorrect - the peaceful march that did proceed was reported in one place, in the .... SMH video that I draw MIM readers attention to with this post.

Which is why I posted it to embarrass the rest of Big Media who got it WRONG.

Get the picture, indeed 'square' picture? ha ha.

But when you come back with right answers 'all the time' expect to be put right by me sometimes.

I have the time and the place INDYMEDIA larger than life i.e. readership!

Take a freeken trip around the world in five minutes and get out of your square!

That is all!

You do a good job but like all of us you're not right all the time. Sometimes it's good to reflect on your own righteousness and learn like all of us.

Put me right anytime and I will lick it up like ice cream. Because that is how we learn better, IMHO.

I know too many people who don't really have the time and who take shortcuts to still keep up. Sometimes that works but a lot of times that doesn't.

Do you follow?

After you get back from your over-commitment I guess you will be able to respond.

That said I'm not trying to knock you just share more ideas with you. But sometimes you're so thick it's like talking to a brick wall.

Ps) I know you like my brother.

Actually that claim is a laugh. I spent 8 years at university getting a law degree (with extra points) and a science degree.. That's not a shortcut.

This is s shortcut: Doing a covert peace deal with Bob Carr's ALP in 1994 cutting the biggest environment group in the State out of the negotiation, getting millions of dollars for your ngo mates, prestige, a couple of environment medals ... and 20 years RFA logger resource security, not just for NSW mind you, but template for the whole country with 70 MILLION tonnes of woodchipped natural forest. And still counting. Each and every day except maybe Christmas.

Now that's what I call a shortcut.

Meanwhile land clearing laws are a rubber stamp for literally millions of hectares cleared in NSW while sitting on the peak govt committee with hardly a squeak: indeed calling Carr "the greenest premier in the history of Australia' in the critical lead up to the 2003 election, and not just anywhere, in a self authored opinion piece in the Sydney Morning Herald.

Now that's a shortcut.

And these guys are the leaders? Not my leader that's for sure. As I wrote to Crikey.com.au the other day in response to a sorry arse ex corp economist saying the greens should be more sensible about about climate change:

25. Needed – new green economics
Matt Marks, a former investment banker and stockbroker with Merrill Lynch, Citibank and Macquarie Bank and founder of the online magazine http://www.righthinker.com, http://redirect.cmailer.com.au/LinkRedirector.aspx?clid=bd0f7b56-a1cc-4850-b2ed-41148fcb5327&rid=d29ebb79-1a14-4e3c-9714-dc5d6e66eb15 writes: ...."

Sooo, how exactly do you reason with a melting ice cap, CO2/methane legacy, and momentum for dangerous sea rise? I'm afraid you just don't get it, Matt. When Stern said impending dangerous climate change was a "market failure" akin to 2 World Wars and a Depression he was refering to PHYSICAL REALITY. Not the funny money of the bourse. Not pandering to money politics and their dancing monkeys. Not even democracy as such. Stern himself was relying on redundant scientific data re melting ice cap. But it's okay. Most in the comfortable western green movement don't really get it either, let alone wider society: There is no way modern society will clean up it's act in 10 years. My 15 years of community politics tells me that (with some damn good wins in there too). And if Dr James Hansen http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topics/James+Hansen at NASA "the world's leading climatologist" is right about a 10 year window to turn around emissions to avoid dangerous "non linear" sea rise (amongst other things) and he probably is, coal and oil usage will make the utility of asbestos look like penicillin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillin No one really wants to wake up from this sleep walk, and really I don't blame them. It sort of reminds me of those poor Rwandan kids who offered to change their ethnicity to avoid the genocidal machete not understanding their fate was as certain as the cruel depths of humanity can be. Or the impending fall of Singapore to the Japs. In short we are f*ck*d.

Tom McLoughlin, ex corporate lawyer

You were right about it. See I admit when I'm wrong. That said...be alert and alarmed because it is not always the case that mess media help out these days.

What I meant by taking shortcuts is trying to do things on the run....

Half-hearted attempt to make things work. I'm surprised at the video actually. But I still don't like the idea of the mess media choosing our elected parties. Say when they chose a war criminal last time and made damn sure Howard was elected after committing war crimes.

That was the mess medias big mistake because that means that they can't be trusted. Like giving a child responsibility of a candy store.

So when the mess media say choose lib or lab we've got to resist.

Either vote for a minor party because some people won't be told or just doesn't vote for the lies. In my view no matter what party is elected they'll end up with lib or lab because there are too many people out there he don't know the real truth. Bummer!

That's my reason for not voting or voting informal because I have absolutely no confidence in the two party system that is unavoidable.

Wast of time. So if Lib/Lab can't even deal with plastic shopping bags then we know that ecology is on the very bottom of Lib/Lab's ideals. Bummer!

As for you knowledge and understanding I'm from the school of hard knocks. Wisdom comes from life. I have been giving a lecture at the UNSW for years in humanities and sociology. I've studied sociology, criminology, forensic psychiatry, psychology, law, computer science, computer programming, humanities, music, parent effectiveness training, you name it but I'm still learning. Law is just their rules and I know to study law you'd have to have done some of the above also. But wisdom comes kicking your toe on a rock.

Sure the world is falling apart in lots of different areas. Not just ecology.

I still say don't freak out. Hang on to the pylons until we sought out a way to resolve the problems if that can be done. That said Lib/Lab aren't going to do it. They're stuck in a greedy corporate web and can't change it.

We can!

Greenland 6m, West Antarctic 6m, then add the rest. It's off to higher ground. Good to see a smart cookie on this site. They/we need all they can get. Build the sector I say.

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