OGRE TYRANT PAUL MCCARTNEY (The real person) : Melbourne Indymedia

There are simply no words to describe one of the biggest obscure tyrants of our days.

Tyrant bad musician Paul McCartney was thrown out of a street in New York that he had illegally closed to give a "concert" and he even had to dismantle the scaffoldings he had built for those purposes. He was also thrown out of a hotel in Portugal where he wanted people staying at the same floor as his to be changed to another floor and even demanded silk sheets of a special rare brand and Champagne of another special rare brand. The Council demolished a mansion he had illegally built without the permission of the afore mentioned Council. His children have to stand in line before him, as if he was a General and them some kind of soldiers, as can be seen on the video of Linda's death. Apple Computers sued him for 5.700.000 Euros because of illegally using the Apple logo. His second wife Heather Mills says she has enough of him and his abusive ego trip and started the divorce procedures, attempting to get 300.000.000 Euros in the divorce. Heather Mills herself admitted that Paul McCartney did beat her up on several occasions. There are no words to describe this ghostly looking flat face senile ogre tyrant named Paul McCartney whom destroyed the Beatles in his RACIST and CHAUVINIST hatred towards Yoko Ono, wanted to destroy John Lennon due to the fact that Lennon was the director and founder of the Beatles, whose name he created, and destroyed Linda (as he himself admitted) to the point of taking her to cancer due to the feminine hormones she took because of the complex this OGRE had built in her.
Last year this abusive non-musician was even taken to Court by a composer for stealing one of his songs.

It is incredible that such ogre full of hatred and egoism as this untalented bad musician did now release a remix of the Beatles music titling it "Love" (he also keeps speaking about whales as a deceptive strategy to hide such an obscure soul full of darkness). He is so heartless that having more than 1500 million Euros in his accounts, without taking into consideration the properties he has, he only wanted to give poor Heather Mills the amount of 10 million Euros on the divorce and not only this because he fought in Court so as to give his own daughter the misery of 20 million Euros!!!
This heartless monster even had the keys of his house at Cavendish Rd. St. John's Wood, changed not to allow Heather and his daughter into the house in the middle of a freezing winter. He even called the bank so that wife and daughter could not draw a penny from the account.
Vile Paul McCartney even resorted to have Heather intimidated though a journalist of the Sunday Times who talked to her saying that there were two people from Liverpool with criminal records going to kill her and that she had to take precautions. McCartney did this so that Heather wouldn't reveal the abnormal practices of his and that he forced Heather to use on him. McCartney did publicly say that one of the conditions of the divorce should have been the absolute silence regarding their private lives. This is what he feared would have come to light.

Due to the fact that he doesn't have the slightest knowledge of music, non-musician Paul McCartney also uses real musicians to compose and write scores for him because he can neither read nor write music, as he did with American musician Carl Davis, literally buying Carl's composed scores and using them for the "Liverpool Oratorio", making them his property. He also buys composed scores off Michael Earle of Leeds and Andrew McAllister of London, pretending they are his own scores afterwards. He used to make the life of his former wife Linda a misery just because she was a school trained pianist and could read and write music, whereas he could not.
One of the reasons why Paul McCartney hated Yoko Ono was because Yoko had a soprano voice that really did cast a shadow on his non-singer voice (he and George Harrison made sure that Yoko did not show her brilliant voice nowhere along the line, severely negotiating this with John Lennon. She could only give a glimpse of her voice on the Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus film).

Many years back, Paul McCartney told George Harrison at the Apple offices that the newer generations coming after theirs are a bundle of idiots and useless people, but that in any way they would have also been slaves of the Beatles. McCartney is one of the biggest racist people ever. His deep racism shows in the hatred he had towards Japanese Yoko Ono, such big hatred that even caused the destruction of the Beatles.

RESUMING: Paul McCartney wanted to destroy John Lennon, hated Yoko Ono, destroyed the Beatles, said George Harrison is a nothing, never called Ringo to play with him again, destroyed Linda, destroyed Heather, left his own daughter on the road in freezing winter, said all next generations are a bundle of idiots and useless people, wanted all human beings to leave the floor where he was at the hotel in Portugal...Paul McCartney DISLIKES AND HATES EVERYBODY. He only likes HIMSELF. He is a gigantic MISANTHROPIST, even though he puts on all kind of masks when in front of the Media.

As said before, there are simply no words to describe one of the biggest obscure tyrants of our days, as well as one of the most untalented non-musicians ever, whose lot was making elementary bass lines on naïve songs and by ear, not having the slightest knowledge of music at all.

Such a mean old man, such a dirty old man...

And nobody needs you and nobody feeds you
when you are 64...
...because...
in the end the love you take
is equal to the love you make...

...boy, you gonna carry that weight, carry that weight a long time...
...eight days a week...
...the continuing story of Bungalow Bill...
...'cause life's the Taxman, yeah, life's the Taxman...

...Taxman!!!...

There is so much inaccurate information here, it is hard to know where to begin. Just one...Ringo played with McCartney countless times and even wrote the song, "Six O'Clock" which Paul wrote for the Ringo album. Ringo was in the McCartney's film, "Give My Regards to Broad Street." On film, Ringo is playing drums. This is such a pack of lies, you deserve to be sued for slander.

Don't worry Angelo, it's written by Heather Mills' lawyers.

I liked Heather best in that Bukkaki movie she starred in. It's been all downhill from there.

wtf mate?
by There are some who call me...Audrey? Wednesday January 31, 2007 at 05:22 PM

"He used to make the life of his former wife Linda a misery just because she was a school trained pianist and could read and write music" - - - That is a load of crap! If you've ever even read a bio on Linda Eastman/McCartney, there is nothing about this!

Ringo also played on a few tracks on 'Tug of War' (1982) and 'Flaming Pie' (1996)......

Paul McCartney a racist......yeah....like you're going to convince anybody of that....

Yoko Ono does not have a beautiful soprano voice - the only reason it's in soprano register is because she screams like a banshee.

‘He is so heartless that having more than 1500 million Euros in his accounts, without taking into consideration the properties he has, he only wanted to give poor Heather Mills the amount of 10 million Euros on the divorce and not only this because he fought in Court so as to give his own daughter the misery of 20 million Euros!!!’ - - 10 million Euro’s is more than enough to survive, Heather should know, she was homeless for a little while when she was young.

‘He even called the bank so that wife and daughter could not draw a penny from the account.’ - - - because she had withdrawn a million pounds in one month. I think he, like anybody else, would be quite angry and change that too

‘Vile Paul McCartney even resorted to have Heather intimidated though a journalist of the Sunday Times who talked to her saying that there were two people from Liverpool with criminal records going to kill her and that she had to take precautions. McCartney did this so that Heather wouldn't reveal the abnormal practices of his and that he forced Heather to use on him. McCartney did publicly say that one of the conditions of the divorce should have been the absolute silence regarding their private lives. This is what he feared would have come to light.’ - - - Ok, now you’re just making stuff up!

‘He was also thrown out of a hotel in Portugal where he wanted people staying at the same floor as his to be changed to another floor’ - - - Probably so he can get some privacy. You’d think that being the most well-known bass player in the world, who is gawked at constantly, would want privacy, wouldn’t you?

Oh yeah - and that ’elementary bass player’ influenced more people to become musicians than you could ever dream of, and is the most melodic bass player in the history of rock.

There is much more in this article that is falsehood, but it’s time for me to go listen to Paul McCartney now, and get some of my sanity back.

Don't forget, your pass expires at 6:00 p.m. Please leave your straighjacket at the front door and check in with security before you are led back to your rubber room.....Have a nice Day!

Your vile slander of Paul McCartney is extraordinary.
You didn't bother to fact check anything. Did Fiona (Heather's sister) co-write this with you?

Linda was not trained as a pianist. In numerous interviews, she talks of how she wasn't a musician and Paul taught her how to play.

Paul is quite unassuming, and easy to interview and would never ask his hotel floor be cleared of other guests.

To accuse him of stealing music from his classical co-writers is deplorable. Paul writes on a computer with a music program such as he did with his sole classical piece "Standing Stone."

I could take apart every paragraph you wrote, but hiding behind an anonymous name to slander and libel Paul McCartney would be a waste of my time. I'd rather be educating people about Darfur and than responding to a coward with a keyboard who has no idea who Paul McCartney is, and clearly has never interviewed, researched or spent time with him and his family.

You, not Paul McCartney, are the disgrace to writers everywhere.

And while Paul is obviously a public figure, you crossed the line to libel with your reckless disregard for the truth and malicious intent.

Ironically, you clain to be "IndyMedia" while you "moderate" the comments, which leads me to believe this comment will never see the light of day, so I'll make sure and copy and paste it and send it, along with your ridiculous, slanderous story to real media outlets.

The author of this article is obviously an idiot who does not know what he is talking about. Before he/she goes printing such garbage, he needs to get his facts straight.

Yeah, there's lots of errors here, and no citing of sources, so you can't back up these claims. Latest I heard was that Paul could keep the building on his property, it wasn't demolished. Heather said Paul hit Linda, not her (Heather listed different abuse of herself). The Apple fracas was started by Apple Corp (Paul's company), due to Apple Computer infringing on music terrain. He didn't do the remixes for Love, they were done by Giles Martin. Linda wasn't trained on piano, he had to teach her. She was only ever in Wings because he bullied her into it, I always felt sorry for her. There was no "negotiating" to keep Yoko's voice off, John decided he'd be much happier making music with her and not the Beatles. I agree he wasn't always nice to her though. A shame, you could've had a good piece here, but rants never make interesting (or comprehesible) reading.

also this is tedious celebrity nonsense...
McCartney's not worth anyone's time or trouble... its enough that he fucked up otherwise excellent Beatles albums.

Heather, save the rants for the divorce hearings - hiding behind a pen name from this article still reveals your true colors - please, spare us. Must've had your Sister write this one, though, because the English is a tad better than usual.

..I`m afraid this rant just makes you sound like a loony.
I`ve seen him with his children on many occasions and of course they do not have to line up in front of him. What video is that? You are surely not talking about when they filed into Linda`s memorial service? What "feminine hormones". Yes, there is a link between breast cancer and HRT, but it has never been claimed that lInda was using it. If she was it would have been her on choice, like many middle aged women.
There was no road closed in New York and I`ve not heard the hotel story before either - and I`m pretty well-up on my Paul McCartney tablid tales!
I`ve met him, he`s not an "ogre" - what on earth did he do to you?

Very funny. You have managed to capture the essence of an incoherent imbecile perfectly. Great parody. Well done.

I really don't care if you like or dislike Paul McCartney. This, however, is nothing but pure slander. Where on earth did you get your "facts"? Or is this simply your ramblings against a celebrity?

Your inacurate and tactless artical makes you sound like nothing more than a person with too much time on their hands and too much hatred in their heart.

Seriously...lighten up.

and also it's the songs stupid...

McCartney should be censured for writing reallly reallllllly bad songs, and injecting them into albums that are now ALMOST masterpieces. Everywhere he goes he should be pelted with animal faeces. Every time he opens his mouth someone should say 'shut up, twat'. Every restaurant meal he eats should be soiled with urine before it leaves the kitchen....

but all this Women's Day nonsense is afterthought, and no comparison to the damage McCartney the monster did WHILE HE WAS WITH THE BEATLES.

The rest of it - Wings, the 'solo career' - is easy enough to ignore. But you're listening to Sgt Pepper's or Revolver and suddenly there he is with one of the infantile melodies regularly dismissed as too simplistic and cheesy by the Wiggles.

Any woman who goes near McCartney (unless it's to tell him to 'shut up, twat', or to smear animal shite on him, or deliver a urine soaked meal) pretty much deserves whatever abuse she gets from him and a lot more besides.

All this other nonsense is celebrity mush.

Heather? Fiona? Is that you?

..everyone who doesnt like McCartney must be a former wife of his?
I doubt Heather's capable of constructing a written sentence.
And Im fairly sure she wouldn't consider octopus's garden the worst of McCartney's transgressions... it'd be something to do with her instead.

with the notable exception of Mahatma Gandhi, most extraordiary humans are usually 'monsters' ... takes another breed I guess.

Perhaps it is our method of determining fame and notoriety; should sociopaths be admired? If so, we might end up with psychopaths leading nations, who knows??

no.. Ghandi is not the exception you seek.
The guy did not treat his wife especially well.

Otherwise congratulations on a massive generalisation, still in the celebrity nonsense category.

How can anyone write such vile untruths? This person must be very unhappy in his/her life and just needs to drag others down to the same level. Heather, is this you?????

Take a pill...this borders on obscene, get some help.

tin foil places foot in mouth once again -- Gandhi was married trad indian style arranged child bride selction etc -- no one is happy under those cricumstances .. but I'm not aware of any abuse that you infer ... do not attempt to judge trad indian culture from a western or Arab point of view .. you should know better, Abdul

just because you're not aware of it, doesn't make it untrue.. except in your private solipcistic universe.

Ghandi was abusive of his wife and the people around him in that he chose to impose certain austerities on himself, but by extension imposed them on the people around him. He was neglectful of his wife in that he always put political considerations ahead of his personal life. Entirely justified from one perspective, but still abuse of a kind.

My point was nobody's impeccable. Nobody human.

It's very funny that people are defending Paul McCartney here - I didn't realise 65-year-old women with a penchant for droopy eyes and four-chord dirges frequented this site.

Taking sides in a dispute between a very bad songwriter and a one-legged prostitute is laughable. Stop reading those magazines in the supermarket checkout queue.

u see, a western interpretation, duty and servitude is the indian wife's only considerations to her husband -- he imposed nothing, SHE WAS OBLIGED BY TRADITION AND CULTURE TO FOLLOW HER HUSBAND... not that i agree with any of it -- BUT IT WASN'T ABUSE!! He was an ascetic too, no better way to get off side with a female than that!

i concede I was using a selective frame of reference to make a point about no human being perfect, with the corollary that prominence doesn't necessarily imply sociopathy. But my critique of Ghandi is hardly a condemnation.. I qualified it.

By your reasoning Ghandi is excused - I have no argument with your argument. And I'm not saying he didn't love his wife, and treat her well in some respects. But I will say that he went well out of his way to challenge accepted norms in all kinds of ways, and did a lot to advance the cause and idea of human freedom, and so it could be argued he could have applied this to his family as well as the world. Or instead of, and it would have been a different good thing to do. Anyway, my point was only constructed for its relevance to a frivolous thread on the foolish McCartney. Im not Ghandi-bashing:>

My My
The poor person who wrote this is filled with such deep seeded hate.

I feel sorry for this pathetic person.

Is this Heather Mills in disguise?

I hope who ever wrote this sordid piece, gets the help the person so desperately needs.

Boy, I wish I was that much of a non-musician. Who is writing this, Heather? You obviously have a hidden agenda here. And why don't you learn to write English?

Yes, true, the prerogative was his (Gandhi's) but he chose to apply it to national independence, not the family unit .. I'm not unhappy with his choice .. a remarkable effort when u consider he refused to take up arms .. the first revolution of its kind ... but it was all culture specific, 'ahimsa' (non-violence) is applied in Hinduism wheres 'loving your neighbour/enemy' is a Christian joke!

He made one mistake -- allowing the partition!

...I sure hope you are being ironic. Otherwise you are being sexist and ageist - and do you seriously think Paul wrote Octopus`s Garden?

who the fuck is Paul, my name is not heather?

I have read this article and I agree with the prior comment and I hope you are sued for slander. You have several errors in this article. Paul did not make "Love" George Martin and his son did. Its great to see that you are a low rent journalist that will never get a good job. Thanks for one of the most poorly written peaces of crap i ever had the displeasure of reading.

- Paul

Friend of Heather's no doubt.

This is certainly the most ridiculous tirade against Paul that I've ever Googled upon. He's got his detractors, and I can understand that for some he's not their cup of tea, but Paul continues to go strong after 40 some odd years because he's the real deal. As a longtime fan and follower, I had the good luck to see him perform in 2005 and it was the best show I've every seen.

Rebutting the article would be pointless. It's clearly an exercise in taking half-truths and non-truths and asserting them as otherwise. If the author is for real, I hope I have the good fortune of not coming across his rubbish again.

Personally, I think John Lennon was the one with all the talent. Also, since I am the same age as the famous Beatle, I remember how cruel he was to John when Yoko Ono came into the picture. He was verbally abusive in public about her - that part is true. Maybe you had to be there. I also think that whatever Paul did when he was with the Beatles was siphoned from John. After all, Wings was no Beatles!

You loon. Absolute nonsense from a confused mind. Mr Mccartney, like all people, isn't a saint and is merely human, but you have written absurd lies. Completely bizarre comments, which made me laugh out loud. You belong in an asylum.

Well this article was certainly written by either Heather or Yoko, maybe the two of them together! What a crock of BS!! Please give it a rest!!

Gosh, you must have a lot of personal experience of Mr. McCartney to have such a vitriolic view of him. Unless, of course, you are just basing your viewpoint on the trash in the media that has been circulating about him lately. If this is the case, you are simply another moron using the internet to get some kind of rush about seeing your own words published.

Paul McCartney didn't write "Octopus's Garden", Ringo did.

Johns is my favorite but I think you're totally wrong. Without Paul John would've been nothing and without John Paul would've been nothing. It was Lennon/McCartney. And John would hate the fact that you're saying such mean things about Paul, he loved Paul, he thought Paul was a good writer otherwise he wouldn't have stayed in the band with him for as long as he did. And I honestly couldn't blame Paul for not liking Yoko. How would you feel if your best friend suddenly replaced you and never wanted to spend time with you, etc? I'm pretty sure you'd be pretty pissed off too. Also, Wings had a lot of number one hits, and John didn't. So what does that tell you?

McCartney was a ball and chain tied to the Beatles from the early days.... he can't play, can't write - even by the end of the band he still couldn't really play, except in the most rudimentary way. For contrast look at George Harrison's evolving guitar style. McCartney's lyrics are the perfect contrast to Lennon's - Lennon a great lyricist, McCartney a saccharine, pissweak one.

McCartney was the fifth Beatle... there was no fourth Beatle unless you count Pete Best.

It's now not original, by the way, to suggest a post damning McCartney as shite is written by someone called 'Heather'... I'll just point out again that it's highly unlikely she can write...

in rebuttal of 'sexist' and 'ageist' accusations earlier in the thread... I was referring to comments authored by people with women's names - maybe I'm making an unreasonable assumption but that's as far as it goes. There has never been a thread at Melbourne Indymedia with posts from so many Sues and Margarets et cetera...

And ageist - I figure most of those people who are defending McCartney are his own age, because it must have been the pretty boy looks that appealed many years ago - it can't have been the musical talent.. there is none. What the fuck is 'ageist' anyway? Asserting people are more stupid when they're young, and smell worse when they're old? Wellllllll, shoot me.

It does seem to be there's a surplus of people wandering round online looking for places to defend McCartney and put the boot into 'Heather'... I really don't know anything about her, or McCartney post-1970.. as mentioned previously it's talentless-celebrity cheesy tabloid magazine time here at Melbourne Indymedia.

The original article posted here is exactly as inane as responses taking McCartney seriously. He's more prat than ogre. Having been vitriolic thus far, Im embarrassed about the Octopus's Garden error.

.....and lol thanks yank... may a rain of fire fall upon your country and devastate it end to end. Go yank something else, somewhere else. Your opinions had no currency here even before you mentioned voluntarily attending a McCartney concert. Fooken Americans.

You are total uninformed idiot. When do you get out of the first grade?

Do you have ANY IDEA what a fool you have made of yourself? Everything you have written is 100% wrong!! YOU HAVE CHECKED NOT A SINGLE THING YOU'VE WRITTEN BECAUSE IF YOU HAD, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN IT!

GET A LIFE!

lol all these people coming to the defence of the idiot McCartney...

sure the original post was utter shite..

but enough with the heartfelt defence of the poxiest beatle please...

WTF? Where the hell did all these people with strong opinions on the Beatles come from? Does MIM have a secret underground of pop-music culture warriors?

Anyway, forgetting the unsubstantiated article, there are at least two reasons to dislike Paul McCartney:

1) He allowed the anti-revolutionary, pro-capitalist song 'Revolution' to be released on a Beatles album (yes, I know it's by Lennon, but McCartney could have blocked it if he chose).

2) Pipes of Peace.

But then, why should we be churlish about the best elevator-music composer in history?

That is all.

Where did all these people come from?

Cracked lawyer wars or fruit loop ping pong?

You missed your medication again, didn't you?

some of us just have strong opinions on people who have strong opinions on mccartney..

but this is an anomalous thread.. my guess is the average age of contributors just went up by about 40 years

For you to say that Paul was the "ball and chain" and that he couldn't play is absolute shite. I hope you know that Paul taught John how to play guitar because when they met all that John knew how to play was banjo chords. And Paul is a great lyricist, even John the 'great lyricist' made many praises to Pauls writing, and do you honestly think John would have written with Paul as long as he did if he thought that Paul was crap? Not bloody likely. And saying that Pete Best was the fourth Beatle is also shite because he wasn't even a good drummer, so how on earth do you make him to be better than Paul?

And I hate to bust your bubble about the age of people commenting here but I'm 18, not 64. And I do have a great taste in music, and Paul is one of my favorites. Do you think that if he was such a crappy musician that "Yesterday" would be the most recorded song in history?

Um, admittedly I skipped a huge chunk of this article, because I could hand somebody a ZipLoc bag full of vomit and it would deserve more literary merit than this load, but I just want to inform you (not that you weren't already aware) that about...100% of your information is COMPLETELY fabricated.

Where do you get your "information"? What are your "sources"? Anyway, you're probably jealous because you're not the most talented musician of the century. Nope, all you do is write a blog full of crap.

fair enough to have your opinion on McCartney, Chelsea, and happy to be proven wrong on speculation most people here are 78 ...

but from my perspective songs like 'yesterday' are cheesy shite compared with the good oil from the Beatles, none of which McCartney was responsible for.

Popularity of a song is no measure of its worth. There's a lot of bad musicians out there. And a lot of people in it for the money.

Sure, McCartney might have been on par with Harrison when they were all teenagers. But he stopped developing as a musician circa 1958.

In terms of his musical ability - guitar in particular - I'm comparing it with my own.

McCartney should be a virtuoso by now, given the decades he's had to keep learning... but he's not good. He really isn't. He's stuck in your basic pentatonic, blues, and major scales. His chord patterns are all entirely predictable. He didn't write the good bass lines, like 'I want you (She's So Heavy) - Harrison did. He has no bass technique other than your basic plucking out of notes. Very little in the way of synchopation or rhythmic variation.

He's technically crap.

I guess its a matter of taste as to lyric ability. It must be, because to me McCartney's awful, Lennon great.

Believe it or not John's my favourite but Paul is a pretty close second. "Yesterday" isn't my favourite song by Paul, probably not even close to being my favourite, but the fact remains a lot of people know the song and a lot of people recorded it. So if he's a bad lyricist I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be getting the recognition that it is today.

If you don't mind me asking, how many Beatle CDs do you have? Because Paul wrote a lot of great songs, and like I've said before even the great John Lennon praised many of them, just read the interviews. And you may have forgot that some of the good parts of John songs were from Paul, or Paul at least helped with them.

How many instruments do you play? Because Paul can pretty much pick up any instrument and play it, if that's not talent I'm not really sure what is. Plus if you're such a great musician why aren't you in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Wow, that was one of the most pathetic articles I've ever seen. It's not worth it to try to explain to you what a legendary genius Paul McCartney is. It's okay though; most of the world is pretty aware of his brilliance already.

For No One
Blackbird
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Can't Buy Me Love
Oh! Darling
Side 2 of Abbey Road
Get Back
Two Of Us
Let It Be
Penny Lane
We Can Work It Out
Paperback Writer
Hey Jude
Eleanor Rigby
Here, There And Everywhere
Got To Get You Into My Life
Drive My Car
Back In The USSR
I Will
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?
Helter Skelter

all Paul songs, all Beatles highlights. You're a damn fool.

Ive got most of the albums, plus bootlegs and bsides (You Know My Name Look Up the Number, what a shame mary jane had a pain at the party)... on cassette though:> cause I did most of my beatles listening when I was about 14.

If Paul wrote Why dont we do it in the road, I can dig it.

But the list provided is good in that to me it's a neat list of Beatles songs I don't like so much, and otherwise good albums could have done without. They're the songs I'd skip over if I ever upgrade beatles albums to CD.
Got to be a matter of taste, really... my own preference for complex music/lyrics and rhythm (if it aint got that swing) isn't shared by everyone, and fair enough.

Having said that Back in the USSR was the first song I ever performed, with a band in grade eight - must have liked it then. It's v. easy to play - three or four chords. I am the walrus on the other hand is trickier.

Last thing I'd want is to be a 'famous' musician, or celebrity.. this thread is a good demonstration of some of the reasons why.

But I'm not suggesting Im anything special.. just that McCartney's not very good.

to be fair, though, here's a link to the first CD a band of mine made, with some downloadable tracks...
http://ironyparty.org/fraught2
and here's a link to the second...
http://www.ironyparty.org/unknown
Im making a third myself but Im not yet good enough at mastering tracks.. evidence of THIS at http://myspace.com/jamelot

not that anyone's especially interested, just being fair in case Heather or Sir Paul drop in to issue a critical appraisal of their critics.

This article is just too funny!

i may only be 16 but i know that all of your info there, is wrong. I think Paul is a great musician, sure he may have had <i>some</i> bad songs but eh...

thanks for making me laugh!

Okay. So you have the Beatle albums. Have you given Pauls solo CDs a listen? They have some pretty good songs. Paul wrote and sung "Why Don't We Do It In the Road?" and the only people in the studio to record that song was Paul and Ringo.

I am all for complex music/lyrics/rhythm, I'm a musician and I go through every little detail of a song. But I also like Paul songs they have good lyrics, music, and rhythm. I respect your taste, but you have to give credit where credit is due. He hasn't become one of the most famous musicians in the world for "not being very good."

Look how many responses a tabloid piece on indymedia has hit up, compared to the serious issues... Including over a handful by David, usually with references to this very point. Irony party? Wow. You can see why those supermarket mags sell, huh?

(and forget about the meta-irony... I was attracted to the piece by the volume of responses, not the subject, so I'm still super-clever and fucking fantastic. (Although, yeah, even so I'm adding to the volume by posting this, so still contributing to the very phenomenon I critique. I'll delete so nobody knows. (Unless I accidently hit ENTER before I can get to the mouse (uh oh))))

david wrote above at "the amusing defence of a very bad songwriter" on Thursday February 01, 2007 at 02:49 AM : "My point was nobody's impeccable. Nobody human.".

Just da limited perceptions of a mortal unable to "see".

To master power a warrior MUST be impeccable. "If a body farts it's alive", don Genaro as related by Carlos Casteneda. What kinda peyote is "chooses not to cry" J W hoWARd allied to? What else don't you "see"?

Good evening all, what excellent messages. Keep 'em coming, his Lordship is loving this message stream as he consumes another pile of oysters.

This is ridiculous, made-up bullshit. Paul McCartney is a genius, and more importantly, he is a good person with more morals and kindness than you. Don't resort to lies to back up your moronic slander.

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by kathydaws Saturday February 03, 2007 at 09:51 AM
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Ridiculous! Please It's just crazy. Such an attack on someone who has contributed so much to the field of music -- and so much to all of our lives! Ridiculous!!!

ye wellsaid chelsea and jay - but direct involvement in the perpetuation of recursive ironies, consciously or unconsciously, is as much a part of the Irony Party mandate as making effluvial comment on others' ironic fauxes pas. In my defence I only critiqued the hapless McCartney on his music, not his dalliances/floosies, et cetera:>.

more truth in flawed heroes for me and perfection inhuman.
That Mccartney's affected lots of people - one way or another - can't deny. Also was a part of a v. cool band, can't take that away from him
Genius must be in the eye of the beholder, tho.
Django Reinhardt was a genius. For me McCartney can't play guitar so sweet you nearly drive your car off the road. Reinhardt could, but he quit playing a year before he died and drank instead, saying nobody understood what he was trying to do.... man's like a petulant kid in late middle age. For those who don't retch at the mention of Woody Allen, Sweet and Low Down considers theme of genius residing in an utterly fooked up musician. Bird has the same theme.

Disclaimer - comment not an endorsement of the idiotic tabloid article heading this thread.

I find this article amusing, but I do believe it. Paul McCartney is an over-rated musician and promotes himself as if he were the only musician on the planet worth listening to. Wings and his solo music puts me to sleep. I wouldn't listen to it if the man himself gave me all of his money.

Sure, he was one of the Beatles, and the Beatles were great, but that is his only claim to fame. He'll be remembered for being a Beatle, nothing more. I don't think you will see people walking around wearing Paul McCartney or Macca t-shirts when he is dead and gone.

Paul McCartney will be remembered for his marriage to Heather Mills, their divorce, and all the money he had to pay her.

I think the realization that he is getting old has hit him in the head like a bag of bricks and he can't handle it. He acts like a 20 year old and struts around as if he was God's gift to women. The man is a show off and there is nothing humble or modest about him. The man is nothing more than a fake worth billions of dollars. But his money can't buy back his youth, it can only buy him face-lifts and hair dye kits.

I applaud the person that wrote this article because Paul McCartney deserves ever bad bit of press he receives. The man is a phony.

All performers are phonies -- its the nature of the business, idiot -- McCartney like you is full of shit but at least he, in partnership with Lennon, wrote some of the more memorable songs of the 20th century -- what have you done besides gripe and sling some shit -- at least Mills is getting some satisfaction -- good lesson for an old man .. beware of one-legged, gold digging, fellatrice bitches .... like all liasons they deserve each other, while it lasts.

phoney:

I am not an idiot, you are the idiot for contradicting yourself. I said the Beatles were a great band and you are admitting Paul McCartney is full of shit. I did not post my first comment to gripe and sling some shit ... I posted the comment to say that I believed what was written in the article. How is Heather Mills is getting some satisfaction? Is she getting it by going on Dancing with the Stars ... The Larry King Show and The Jay Leno Show? If so, I would call that 100% satisfaction because she is making Paul McCartney look like The King of Idiots!!! The fact that she has one leg is irrelevant - - it obviously did not bother Paul McCartney because he was with her for seven years. If it took Paul McCartney seven years to learn a good lesson, he is not very intelligent. I would call him a very stupid old man. The fact that he did not investigate Heather Mills past and not have her sign a pre-nup agreement indicates how stupid he is. Heather Mills is the intelligent one. If Heather is a gold-digging bitch, she will receive a lot of gold after the dig is over.

Interesting choice of words - - liaison. I thought they were husband and wife. The only thing that will last is Heather Mills long after Paul is dead and gone. She has the advantage -- she will outlive him. He is sixty five years old and she is thirty nine years old. It is a sad fact, but true, the child they had together will have to face the all the shame and embarrassment of the Paul McCartney and Heather Mills divorce saga for many, many years after they are both dead and gone.

If all perfomers are phonies, then all performers must be laughing behind Paul McCartney's back.