Let's see the "left" defend this one : Melbourne Indymedia

Muslims have more right to Australia: sheik

Sydney Muslim leader Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly has set off a new controversy, claiming Muslims have more right to be in Australia than the descendants of convicts.
On Arabic television, he said westerners were the world's biggest liars and accused the media of trying to bring him down.

The sheik was invited to appear on Egyptian television to explain his sermon comparing women who show some skin, to uncovered pieces of meat that invite predators.

At the time, Sheikh al Hilaly claimed his comments were taken out of context, but on Today in Cairo he defended the remarks, blaming the media for the national outcry.

"This is a calculated conspiracy aimed at terrorising our Islamic community, aimed at me first in order to bring the Islamic community to its knees," Sheik Hilaly said in Arabic.

He went further, claiming Muslims had more right to be in Australia than the ancestors of convicts.

"Westerners are the biggest liars, especially the English," the sheik said in translation.

"The Anglo-Saxons came to Australia in shackles, while we paid for our own tickets."

He also claimed Australia's courts were racist for sentencing Bilal Skaf to 55 years' jail for gang rape.

Even the sheik's closest advisers fear a backlash over the latest remarks.

They have apologised for the comments, saying the sheik's words will cause offence.

"As a Muslim Australian, I can just apologise for the remarks," the sheik's spokesman Keysar Trad told 7News.

The sentance against Bilal Skaf was racist. Anglo-Saxon gang rapists, who make up the overwhelming majority of gang rapists in this country, do not get 55 years. The law was changed specifically so that Skaf and his codefendents could get longer sentances than were previously on the book because of their Middle Eastern background. This is racism pure and simple.

The biggest liars. Start with George Bush, Tony Blair and John Howard.

Now you couldn't get bigger liars could you?

I haven't got time to write down the examples but what he said made me laugh harder than I have for a week. And I piss myself laughing every day.

For his statement to move me so much tells me that the thread he found was more appropriate, rang true and had more meaning in my soul than most of the western mess media lies I have to deal with everyday.

As a caseworker my workload has trippled because my clients are being undermined by their own gov't. How could that be?

Where not left we're one! Lets see the liars attack that!

Sheik Hilaly is not the only one that will have this belief, let me say that thi sis the belief of most Arab Muslims in particular those emanating from Lebanon. What have Arabs done for this country and in particular why do they continue to dentify themselves as Lebanese Australians. You are either Australian or not, there is no need for further descriptors. Those that dont want to live here should leave. If Islam is such a great religion why is it that of all world conflicts at present the majority involve Islamic countries.

Why is it that Muslims want to live in predominantly Christian Lands and most of them flee their "homelands" in droves eg;Australia;England;Germany;Netherlands.

It is a bit sad to see how easily peoples are put under the mind control by some hooligans and a big media.

How pathetic a piece of "journalism" when they can only get a moron asswipe parading as "journalist" to make sensationalist backsnipes.

Hey Andrew Bolt, we will send you the the "conspiracy to pervert the course of justice " against centerlink. If you dont broadcast it, we will send you sorry ass along with CA/Today/tonight etc to the racist President of HREOC and prove once and for all that Allaily is correct....

Your sorry ass convicts poppies are grown too tall under Howard.

Hilaly should stay in Egypt, he is trash, I wonder would he have fought for this Country like soldiers and "convict" descendants have done.

Hilaly should stay in his most preferred Muslim land, but he probably can't as he won't get paid his Centrelink.

I wonder who he descended from since most Egytians are descended from slaves, or maybe he would claim that he is a descendant of Tutankhamen.

If Islam is so good why dont Muslims go and live amongst their own in Islamic lands.

why not take centerlink, free election bribes from Howard and Costello....

why leave centerlink money for Howard and costello to give to themselves in whining and dining, free chauffuer,

didnt they just get a raise along with Dud and Dullard?? for jerking off in parliamnet?

Fought for this country? You mean stole this country don't you?

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You say, "If Islam is so good why dont Muslims go and live amongst their own in Islamic lands."

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The same reason you don't go live amongst your own in English lands.

If it's is that good!

for starters that fraud Capt Cook had maps of various parts of the coastline from the dutch who colonised Indonesia 200 years earlier. As for muslims being here before anglos.. highly likely as Arab traders were obtainig spices from indo and left Islam in return -- what a fucked deal that was!

but that is not the point -- the hindus colonised Indo before the Muslims but the maritime archeological record in the Bight indicates the Chinese beat the lot of yas but i'm biased like the rest of yoos dumb racist pricks.

But as usual everyone forgets who was here first, indigenous people ...

COOK was an English fraud who can go and get fucked -- he was the last to get here following maps then claims he fuckin discovered the joint .. typical pommy liar, prob related to Blair!

I understand that the mufti is partial to some young cock up his Mecca-pointing arse. Can anyone confirm this?

Quick!!!! Deport them now as SEXIST or HOMOPHOBIC comments are UNACCEPTABLE IN AUSTRALIA!!!

What? They're not a Muslim? Well in that case their homophobia just shows how true blue & dinky-di they are!!

Darn, you beat me to it.

I really wanted to be first on record predicting that our resident "intelligentsia" would feel emotionally compelled to defend Sheik "Rattle and Roll" Hilaly's latest outburst.

My prediction - he was 'mistranslated' and 'quoted out of context'.

" The sentance against Bilal Skaf was racist. Anglo-Saxon gang rapists, who make up the overwhelming majority of gang rapists in this country, do not get 55 years. "

Skaf was a serial gang rapist and he wasn't just charged with rape. He was charged with three different rapes. Inspiring at least five other indivuals to commit rape. Abduction. Threat to kill and GBH. All of which were on the books before the penalty for gang rape was increased. Skaf also committed two other crimes of a simmilar nature but has yet to be charged for it. In fact if there was consecutive sentances in NSW he would be serving 1300 years in prison.

Defend people who deserve it. Not scum like Skaf. The reason he is in maximum security is that all lebanese prisoners in NSW want him dead. Funny, you claim to defend the lebanese community, but all you go out and defend is the worst elements of it.

Preaching true Islam
by Last Prophet (promise!) Friday January 12, 2007 at 11:26 AM

We must pay attention to this totally honest hateful Muslim leader that remains a light of truth in a otherwise silent darkness

Australia's genuine honest Islamist mufti Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali has been busy informing us about true Islam again, this time by saying Australian Muslims are superiorly entitled to the country than those with a convict heritage. Anyone who think differently just need to ask why he REMAINS the top muslim leader in all of Australia.

"We (the good people and true Muslims) came as free people. We bought our own tickets. We are entitled to Australia more than they are," he said.

The mufti was on the Egyptian Muslim chat show explaining why good Muslims think western non-Muslim Western dressed women to what uncovered meat is to stray cats. This really is a proclamation to Muslim men to PLEASURE THEMSELVES WITH NON-MUSLIMS at will according to ancient Muslim Chaliphatic tradition.

But as this trashy Islamist dogma is dragged into the light of day, the Australian Muslim Leader claim that outrage over his controversial meat sermon was "a calculated white conspiracy” that started with him, "in order to bring the Islamic Australian community to its knees". Funny statement when you consider that they already go down on their knees five times a day!

He also said "Australian law guarantees freedoms up to a crazy level", when reportedly referring to anti-Muslim courts and the harsh sentencing of a Muslim gang rapist in Sydney.

Islamic Friendship Association president Keysar Trad mechanically defended his close friend as usual,

"He was defending Australia, but saying sometimes democracy fails, (not being Muslim enough) and the reaction to his comments put a lie to the democratic principle of free speech.

"But I, as a Muslim Australian, do feel the need to apologise for anyone (foolish non-Muslim infidel...) who is offended by these comments." "It's evident by the controversy that has erupted again that there are (non-Muslim condemned infidels...) people out there watching every comment he makes," Mr Trad said.

Australians should STOP demanding the removal of the Australian LEADING mufti Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali because he is a dependable beacon of light over the true meaning of Islam, as well as the true character of the majority of Muslims in the world, not just Muslims in Australia.

The message of the mufti Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali is clear, there very few real (in any?) Muslims Australians, just hordes of Australian Insurgents acting as Islamist sleepers! We should feel appropriate rage over this problem, but not remove mufti Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali as long as he keep revealing the ugly terrible truth about Australia with a future with Islam.

It is easy to take millions of Muslims out of satanic evil Islamic lands, but
it is impossible to take satanic evil Islam out of one single true Muslim

The message of the mufti Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali is clear:

There are few real (in any?) Muslims Australians, just hordes of Australian Insurgents acting as Islamist sleepers!

We should feel appropriate rage over this security problem, but DO NOT remove mufti Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali as long as he keep revealing the ugly truth about Australia living with growing Islam.

Some more unpalatable truth:

It is easy to take millions of Muslims out of satanic evil Islamic lands, but

it is impossible to take satanic evil Islam out of one single true Muslim

The sheik is nothing more than an "agent provocatuer", whether he knows it or not. Most of the time, comments in the Egyptian media bare little or no importance to our own media here in Oz, but not today! Every newspaper, every radio station, every TV news and current affairs programme, are all itching to tell us all what the sheik 'thinks' of Australia and Australians. The net result - his comments become 'topic of the day' at workplaces around Australia, and all the racist and terrorism-fearing citizens among the population feel a little more justified in their hatred of the muslim community.

It's not his comments that are important, it's the effect that the dissemination of those comments have on a predominantly racist Australian population...

- Dave

It's just our friendly racist troll. Isra-hell is the greatest! You know why?

Cause they can read and write so well, hey hunter?

this rabid representative of one of the three Abrahamic religions is a good example as is the kosher brigade trying to milk THIS THREAD it for all its worth.

Here's the latest news cocksucking slaves -- religionists are all the same murdering scum and your days are numbered -- look it up in your texts -- you've all had it.

We will do our best to accommodate your death wish but we will be selective -- DEATH TO RELIGIONISTS ONLY!!!

DANIEL ROLKE !!!!!
Aha! Den berömde DANIEL ROLKE !!

Nej, han är knappast känd för varken sansad diskussionston eller god smak. Ni ser ju själva ovan vad HAN är kapabel till.
Vi som har haft med honom att göra tidigare har fått utstå det där under många år nu. Vore en lättnad att bli av med.

usch! Det kan bara finnas en enda person av din kaliber, "Maestro".
DET ÄR DU SOM ÄR DANIEL ROLKE! Erkänn! (Det innebär nämligen med att vi kan avfärda allt du hittills har skrivit med att det är ett psykfall som har skrivit det.)

And among them 'kosher brigadist' 8 millions are NOT-religious at all.
In other words - 2.000.000.000.000.000 (billions) halal brigadists are OK, but 8.000.000 we shall fight, Just because we are cowards we love to beat the MINORITY.

this rabid representative of one of the three Abrahamic religions is a good example as is the HALAL brigade trying to milk THIS THREAD it for all its worth.

Here's the latest news cocksucking slaves -- religionists are all the same murdering scum and your days are numbered -- look it up in your texts -- you've all had it.

We will do our best to accommodate your death wish but we will be selective -- DEATH TO ALL RELIGIONISTS - EXCEPT MUSLIMS of course.

to the previous comment,

since when are muslims NOT relgionists, IDIOT. YOU must be an inbred, brainswashed, religionist, slave, yourself, ay!

The biggest lie is hidden in the smallest of things a mustard seed.
The abstact cannot have mass nor size.
The wolf comes in sheeps clothing.
Yes I am refering to faith.

Here is the feminist Left (to the right in the picture) engaging with a hapless and oppressed Muslim women dragging herself around in heavy textile cages, like a ball of iron...

"My prediction - he was 'mistranslated' and 'quoted out of context'. "

- Sheik "Rattle and Roll" Friday January 12, 2007 at 10:47 AM

Bingo!

"The sheik said his comments on Egyptian television were taken out of context."

"He said the same about the media reports of his comments made at Lakemba mosque."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/sheik-hilaly-like-hitler-says-muslim-leader/2007/01/15/1168709645952.html

Marxists support the oppression of women so it's no wonder they are supporting the mufti.

I wish you would all go back to the lands of your ancestors and leave my land. Your cultures are poison, you carry them like infectious diseases spreading them wherever you go. I personally wish you would all go away, and take your fucking mess with you.

You bicker over who owns and sets the agenda in a land that is stolen from my people. Fucking dimwits.

the concept of ownership is western not traditional koori or murri ... skin colour has nothing to do with it .. culture is consciousness and ur is 'white'.

has it occured to u that the keyboeard ur using is a white sacred ritual object as is the computer ... u lost soul WHO ARE YOU??? these items are not sacred to indig culture we could continue with electric guitars etc and radio stations and the rest of the sacred technological objects of Western culture ... are u getting the point?

u'dbetter start askig urself some serious questios regadig the contradictions in ur logic ARE U PIED (piper).

Trad indigenous culture and white western culture are totally incompatible .. that is why u have adopted the language and all the sacred objectxs of the conqueror.

No one owns the land period, its not urs or even the idiot whites .. u may be able to find peace in your own culture but culture is complete or a deadly contradiction would exist.

ur options today are simple, return to the land that nurtures u or declare war and die fighting .. otherwise the contradiction will kill u all, slowly ..

the last option is to be come 'white' and stop pretending ur otherwise

55 years is not enough, he should have been raped and hung straight away.

Ooooh these poor moslems. They really only understand one thing. And that is getting beaten up. There is no way to reason with them. Moslems complain that they are always looked upon as latent terrosists. True there are many good moslem brothers and sisters out there who let islam be a religion, i.e. a way to contemplate and to see things in a wider perspective than ones own.
But why is it so that those bloody idiots who are let to run around and threaten other people because they do not adopt to islam religion?
How come the hi-jackers of 9/11 did this in the name of Allah?
And that cocksucker Samudra. How is he religious? What kind of religion would even leave a small gap for these idiots open?
Question is if islam is as dosile and friendly as they want to be percieved like? Or do they in fact promote violence.
If the terrorists are as miserable low life mutha fuckers then why don´t they just kill themselves?
Basically how come all the fucking idiots