UN Prejudice Against Arabic Families : Melbourne Indymedia

The Honorable Alexander Downer,

I write to you as Australia’s voice in the international arena, and urge you to consider the United Nations prejudice against Arabic peoples in the latest Security Council resolution.

It is time for the Australian Government to stand up against Israel and represent the views of the majority of Australians who have watched a one sided war that justifies the killing of civilians in the name of defending against “terrorism”.

While the Israeli armed forces indiscriminately fire into suburban areas in Lebanon and have killed more than 1,000 civilians (many of them children); the so-called “terrorist” group, Hezbollah killed 157 Israelis of which 114 were soldiers.

The United Nations resolutions once again favor Israel, a country that has been practicing blatant state-based terrorism against the Palestinians. the Lebanese, and other Arabic states for some years.

If the Australian Government is serious and fair about “fighting terrorism”, then that fight must be without prejudice or favor. It must also be based on the premise that all people are created equal and that invasion by an army against unarmed civilians and children is the supreme form of terrorism.

I talk to a lot of fellow Australians in my travels, and the changing tide of opinion is clear. I suggest you open your eyes to how the Israel is using the world, including the United Nations, to justify continuous killing and oppression of Arabic people. I am neither Muslim nor Jewish, but I am a fervent supporter of human rights.

Please have the courage to stand up to the global prejudice that seems to be saying that one Israeli citizen is more valuable than 35 Arabic children. Australia, with our rich multi-cultural and ethnic population, should lead by example with decisions and actions that recognize all people are equal and indiscriminate killing by any state is the lowest and most cowardly form of terrorism.

I urge you to call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and for the immediate withdrawal of the 30,000 Israeli troops in Lebanon. I also urge you to ensure our troops are now drawn into this prejudicial war where the real terrorists over-run another country with their tanks and soldiers.

Thank you for your attention and for opening your heart and your eyes.

Sincerely,

Wanda Fish

"Please have the courage to stand up to the global prejudice that seems to be saying that one Israeli citizen is more valuable than 35 Arabic children"

That would seem to mean that the world in general (and the Israelis in particular) placed a greater value on them than the Palestinians do.

We don't hear all the details, only little bits and pieces, but I've heard thaqt the Egyptians are trying to make a deal at a ratio of 600:1 -- bargaining the Palestinians down from 1000:1

If the Palestinians think the life of one Israeli is worth a thousand of theirs, why blame the rest of us for not being bothered by a 35:1 ratio.

BTW -- I am not asking or expecting YOU to place ANY value on the life of an Israeli. You probably have no particular reason to care whether Israelis survive or not. Just don't get upset if I don't give a damn whether YOU live or die either.

Israeli citizens are human beings, and as such I'd suggest all of us who support Hezbollah's fight and the Palestinians' struggle extend their compassion to all human beings. Without distinction.

Where people are members of the IDF they are legitimate military targets. But supporting Hezbollah's resistance does not necessarily mean support for rockets falling on Israeli cities.

You're actually clearly differentiating yourself from your opponents in suggesting you don't give a shit about the lives or rights of some human beings. That sentiment of inhumanity is exclusively yours.

It's the reason Israel has armies at its gate. Its the reason Israel will not survive.

Distinguishing between who are the humans worth saving and who doesn't matter and might as well die.... on the basis of race, nationality and cultural affiliation... remind you of anything?

Thank you for ignoring us at the United Nations. Ever heard of Syria being on the Security Council? If that's not catering to the IslamoNazis, then what is?

Your Orwellian idiocy is duly noted and appreciated. And for God's sake, take a bath.

EXCLUSIVE A FORMER Federal Court judge has used the same excuse three times to beat traffic violations – that someone else was driving his car.
Marcus Einfeld is battling claims he perjured himself over a $77 speeding fine in January by blaming a dead American woman.

Now the Herald Sun can reveal Mr Einfeld also avoided speeding and traffic signal violations in 1999 and 2000 while he was a judge earning more than $200,000 a year.

In two statutory declarations, then Justice Einfeld named an Australian woman based in America as the driver of his taxpayer-funded car.

When the Herald Sun phoned the woman in the US yesterday, she said: "I have no idea what you're talking about."

Asked if she knew Marcus Einfeld, she replied: "I know the name."

When told Mr Einfeld had twice named her as the driver of an official car involved in traffic violations, she replied: "Thank you for letting me know -- I have to go."

Aug. 24, 2006 0:30 | Updated Aug. 24, 2006 10:11

Iranian foot-dragging may compel Israel to 'go it alone'

Israel is carefully watching the world's reaction to Iran's continued refusal to suspend uranium enrichment, with some high-level officials arguing it is now clear that when it comes to stopping Iran, Israel "may have to go it alone," The Jerusalem Post has learned.

One senior source said on Tuesday that Iran "flipped the world the bird" by not responding positively to the Western incentive plan to stop uranium enrichment. He expressed frustration that the Russians and Chinese were already saying that Iran's offer of a "new formula" and willingness to enter "serious negotiations" was an opening to keep on talking.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525933028&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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I don't know about you, but I suspect the Middle East would be a safer and more stable place if Iran had nukes. Israel, in this latest example, has shown once again why it is the greatest threat to peace in the Middle East.

Get rid of Israel.

Agreed. Iran needs nukes for balance in the region, unless Israel agrees to being immediately disarmed by responsible international parties.

Israel has no right to call on the United Nations for anything ever. Except maybe help with a plan for evacuation to North America.

Perhaps there's a lack of foresight involved here... breaching a couple of dozen UN resolutions over the years seemed to Israel's leaders like a good idea at the time....

"...Israel's state-based terrorism.."

".....the so-called “terrorist” group, Hezbollah...."

"The United Nations resolutions once again favor Israel, a country that has been practicing blatant state-based terrorism against the Palestinians. the Lebanese, and other Arabic states for some years."

"......as such I'd suggest all of us who support Hezbollah's fight and the Palestinians' struggle extend their compassion to all human beings. Without distinction."

"......supporting Hezbollah's resistance...."

"How Jews operate"

Do any of these posters know what Hezbollah exists for?
The picture is more than a subtle clue........

" “I said Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending in among women and children.

I heard them saying they were proud of losing fewer armed men than civilians. It's hard to see how they could be proud of such a situation.”

-- Jan Egeland, U.N. Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs"

" Consider the analysis provided by the Canadian Major-General Lewis Mackenzie (ret.). According to the Ottawa Citizen,

[Quote from Ottawa Citizen begins here]

“Just last week, Maj. Hess-von Kruedener [a Canadian member of UNIFIL, the UN troops in southern Lebanon] wrote an e-mail about his experiences after nine months in the area, words Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie said are an obvious allusion to Hezbollah tactics.

‘What I can tell you is this,’ he wrote in an e-mail to CTV dated July 18. ‘We have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both (Israeli) artillery and aerial bombing.

‘The closest artillery has landed within 2 meters (sic) of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (sic) from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity.’ [HIR emphasis]

Those words, particularly the last sentence, are not-so-veiled language indicating Israeli strikes were aimed at Hezbollah targets near the post, said Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie.

‘What that means is, in plain English, 'We’ve got Hezbollah fighters running around in our [United Nations] positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the (Israeli Defence Forces),'’ he said.

That would mean Hezbollah was purposely setting up near the UN post, he added. It’s a tactic Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie, who was the first UN commander in Sarajevo during the Bosnia civil war [Bosnia was an administrative unit of the former Yugoslavia, and Sarajevo was its capital], said he’s seen in past international missions: Aside from UN posts, fighters would set up near hospitals, mosques and orphanages.”

[Quote from Ottawa Citizen ends here]

Does MacKenzie know what he is talking about? I think he does. MacKenzie was “the first UN commander in Sarajevo,” as Bosnia was being torn apart by three-way civil wars between Bosnian Muslims, Croats, and Serbs in the 1990s. When MacKenzie says that fighters would set up near UN posts, hospitals, mosques and orphanages, he is describing the tactics used by the Bosnian Muslim faction led by Alija Izetbegovic, which controlled Sarajevo. This is relevant because, like Hezbollah, Alija Izetbegovic was an Islamist terrorist backed by Iran, so MacKenzie is familiar with the tactics of Iranian-backed Muslim movements.

Aija Izetbegovic was also supported by NATO. Western officials, together with the Western media, represented Izetbegovic to the world as a supposed multicultural democrat fighting for tolerance and human rights, defending a plural society against the supposedly racist and genocidal Serbs. "

- http://www.hirhome.com/israel/hezbollah6_2.htm

" What will the Hezbollification of Lebanon bring? Here is a preview, also from the St. Petersburg Times, of what Hezbollah is doing to Lebanon:

[Quote from St.Petersburg Times begins here]

“When I was in Lebanon last year, I had an interview with one of the leaders of Hezbollah, the radical Shiite organization that kidnapped two Israeli soldiers this week.

...As we drove to Hezbollah’s headquarters in southern Beirut, home to hundreds of thousand of poor Shiites, the streets got more crowded, the buildings more decrepit, the women more modestly dressed to the point many wore Iranian-style black abayas and head scarves.

My interpreter, eyes widening as a truly foreign scene unfolded before her, had a confession: Even though she was born in Beirut, she had never seen this part of the city.

‘I had no idea,’ she kept repeating.”

[Quote from St.Petersburg Times ends here]

It is not just the “black abayas” that come in “Iranian-style.” Hezbollah claims to be “inspired by the success of the Iranian Revolution,” which turned Iran into a totalitarian and terrorist Islamist theocracy.[3]

Now this is interesting. The ruling elite in Syria is Alawite; the government is run by the secular Ba’athist party; and the majority of the population -- 74% according to US Intelligence[4] -- is Sunni Muslim. So, if Hezbollah is Syria’s pet we must ask: Why is Syria trying to create an Iranian-style Shiite terrorist state in Lebanon? "

" The St. Petersburg Times explains that,

“Though it has moved into politics and social services, Hezbollah has never abandoned its raison d’etre, which is the destruction of Israel...”[5]

Ah.

It seems to me that the following is relatively straightforward. If Hezbollah’s raison d’etre -- which is to say its reason for existing -- is “the destruction of Israel,” then the Islamization of Lebanon is instrumental to Hezbollah’s most important goal. In other words, the Lebanese Shiites are being transformed into Islamist fanatics so that they will kill Jews. The schools and social services are a shiny lure with which to maul these people with a horrific ideology (this appears also to be the Hamas strategy). "

- http://www.hirhome.com/israel/hezbollah2.htm

I predict that when Israel is out of the equation in Lebanon, the sanctimonious noises of "concern" one hears about the plight of Lebanese civilians around here will become as silent as they were before the Israeli invasion.

Australia was never attacked by Vietnam, yet Australia played a role in that country's destruction.
Australia was never attacked by East Timor, yet it supported the genocidal Indonesian invasion for decades.
Australia has never had an Iraqi-fired weapon land on its soil, yet off to Iraq Australian soldiers have been sent on more than one occasion.
Australia locks up refugees fleeing the same regimes which it pretends to abhor.
Australia continues its slow cultural genocide against its indigenous inhabitants and has failed to make an honourable treaty.
Australia is an occupied territory.
Australia is not surrounded by states determined to destroy it.
Australians are not regularly blown up by terrorists created and sponsored by Globalist networks operating from territories which Australia has just withdrawn from.
So someone needs to explain - What moral authority does Australia have to be lecturing Israel on anything?

And these evil Israelis - who can we point them to for moral guidance? What similar situation - what other country - can we point them to in order to give a practical example of how they should behave? Russia? The US? Iran? France? Australia? China?

What would any of these countries do if their civilian populations were being regularly attacked? What *should* they do? These questions need to be answered by anyone who chooses to pontificate about Israelis.

I challenge anyone to provide an example of a country in a similar situation to Israel which is behaving differently.
Actually...that's too easy....I'll rephrase.
I challenge anyone to provide an example of a country in a similar situation to Israel which is behaving *better* - which could be used as an example to shame Israel.

At this particular juncture, I can't think of one.

Perhaps David can answer these questions - once he's finished putting his money where his mouth is by drawing up a plan for the evacuation of non-indigenous Aussies to Europe.

There are many reasonable points here, including reasonable critique of some of Hezbollah's actions and policies that I don't support, particularly those in which civilians are killed in Israeli cities and towns.

... from my perspective you've put a valid alternate point of view. And returning the Australian continent in its entirety to Indigenous people is fine with me - I would vote yes in the unlikely event of that implausible referendum. But it's much easier for me than people who were born here - I have dual citizenship and the intention of going back to Europe in any case. So in a sense it's a cheap way out of a reasonable argument.

The suggestion that Israel might be evacuated to the United States is based partially on a similarly pragmatic acceptance of current reality and the conclusion that no other resolution will suffice to end the war. This conclusion is formed in part from an understanding of the legitimacy of the grievances of Israel's opponents.

The same understanding is at the heart of support for some of the activities of Hezbollah, particularly fighting the IDF when there are incursions into Lebanon and the provision of social and civil services. This does not imply uncritical support for ANY organisation, however, including Hezbollah.

Also an interesting challenge to find examples of countries that have faced similar circumstances to Israel today, but have behaved better - depends what criteria are used to decide similar circumstances. A beseiged Byzantine Empire behaved fairly well for a few centuries, but this period was sandwiched between and once or twice interrupted by terrible acts of brutality and oppression directed against neighbours.

I'll think about it, but even if there are examples, your point is well made, since they'd be few and far between.

I'd agree that almost without exception nations of far greater military strength than their neighbours find it impossible to resist using this force to brutal and disproportionate effect, partly in the effort to reduce casualties among the troops to near zero and partly because it's a cardinal rule of possessing a large and effective fighting force that it must be used.

from http://www.emep.org

14 Agust 2006

Leader of Hezbollah Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah: United front against Imperialism
Roza Çiğdem Erdoğan / Mutlu Şahin*
Beirut/EVRENSEL - Turkish Daily

From the first day of our arrival to Lebanon, we have looked for ways of interviewing Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah, the General Secretary of Hezbollah. We communicated continuously this demand to the representatives of Hezbollah. After a considerable length of time, Hezbollah militants suddenly came to meet us and took from us open identity information and our photos. And they left without saying anything. A few days after this event which has caused immense nervousness for us, two civilians arrived to visit us. They told us that Nasrallah is waiting to see us but that they absolutely did not want camcorders or cameras. After going around for a few hours with a civilian vehicle, at last Nasrallah was before us. We were still very nervous. But apparently, we have succeeded..!

Israel which has reoccupied firstly Palestine and then Lebanon with the pretext of the kidnapping its soldiers, has being facing a resistance it did not expect at all in Lebanon. Despite the backing of US and Europe, Israel continues to suffer heavy loses against Hezbollah which is an organisation rooted in Lebanon. Hezbollah which has been conducting an effective resistance against the Israel army propagated as being �unbeatable�, while defending the Lebanese lands, it also continues to be a hope for the resisting peoples of Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan. We have spoken to Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, who has become a kind of the �symbol� of the resistance against the imperialist assaults not only in Lebanon but in the entirety of the Arabic world following the resistance of Hezbollah, about the resistance in Lebanon, Zionist aggression with imperialist support, the attitude of governments of the region and of Turkey, the socialist movement and plenty of other topics.

Israel had claimed its aim was �to destroy Hezbollah� in the first days of the occupation of Lebanon. However, it came across a resistance it did not expect and now it has been falling short of this aim. Through violent clashes, the occupying army continues to suffer heavy loses. But this is not covered sufficiently by the media. Could you briefly talk about the current status of the resistance?

Hasan Nasrallah: The Zionists who are the contractors of imperialism are utilising the media very effectively. In the west, with primarily in the US the media is in the hands of Jewish capitalists. They are writing that they are bombing the Hezbollah positions and are deceiving the peoples. This certainly is a lie. As you have witnessed personally, this is a big lie! They are martyring the innocent civilians; they are callously martyring the women and children. But, we are routing the Zionists wherever we come across them. We are acting cautiously, and are not firing rockets on civilians. By claiming that we are firing rockets on urban settlements, they are seeking to deceive the peoples of the world. But we are firing rockets under control on to locations we identified before.
Concerning this issue, it is also necessary to make this point; they are deliberately driving the Israeli Arabs to the border. They are presenting them as a target to us, but we are not playing into provocation and mischief. Our target is not the civilians; it is the Zionist military forces. Our fighters are routing extensively the Zionist forces in the land operation. But they should also know that we have not still used our important weapons.
The Zionists, knowing that they cannot daunt us with death, are attempting destroy our infrastructure, our roads, bridges, our women and children. This is how they are trying to intimidate us. But, it�s all futile, we will not surrender! Apart from the freedom of our motherland, we will not accept any other solution. We will resist and we will fight.
Imperialism and its Zionist contractors in the region should know that we are waiting for the Zionists on every hill, every valley, every street and every inch of our country. Our resistance necessitates victory. We have no other way. This war will end with the victory of the oppressed of the world and of the Muslims.

Is it possible for Lebanon to face once again the threat of a civil war?

Hasan Nasrallah: Not only in Lebanon, but also in the region as a whole, the Zionist regime is seeking polarisation with the tension in between ethnic groups, sects and beliefs. Their strategy of attacking our country also confirms this. But, the Hezbollah has spoiled this game. The oppressed peoples of our country and of Middle East have come to the defence of Hezbollah and have provided their support. The socialists and Christians are included in this.
On the other hand, imperialism has established front-collaborator bogus Islamic organisations in the period of USSR. These forces, as well as planting seeds of discord amongst sects for the interests of the US, fought also against the revolutionaries. However, the conditions have now changed. The US had also used Saddam who they overthrew in Iraq years ago to fight against Iran, the Kurds and us. Or they used different contractor organisations for conflicts in between sects or against the revolutionaries. No-one should think for a moment that we are not aware of these tricks. We are aware of these and never in our history played into these tricks.

Despite the attacks in Palestine and Lebanon, the Arab governments remain silent. What is the reason for this silence?

Hasan Nasrallah: Most of these are collaborating countries. For instance, in countries such as Saudi Arabia, there are fatwas issued for our name. These are humorous fatwas. Not even their own people believe in these fatwas. These fatwas are absolutely political and have been prepared for the interest of the US. These fatwas are given from time to time. We did not take these very seriously. But, let me reiterate that we will not permit clash between sects and religions, and that these fatwas serve this aim. They resorted to these tricks in Iraq. They were successful in this, but the Iraqi people are now aware of these tricks.

On the issue of Iraq mentioned, fight in between sects in this country under occupation is provoked. Recently a number of US generals have been issuing warnings concerning the �escalation of a civil war� in Iraq. Can we have your views on this subject?

Hasan Nasrallah: The imperialists are seeking to win the war which they could not with arms and weapons from inside by the creation of a war between sects through a diverse range of collaborating so-called resistance groups. The same trick was played through Saddam before against the Shias and the Kurds. And now, they continue with these tricks. Today there is no Saddam, but there is tens of possible Saddams. I call on my and our peoples to not pay heed to this trick. Let�s be vigilant towards the murder of brothers and sisters.

How do you evaluate the reaction of the Turkish Government?

Hasan Nasrallah: Messages of reaction from the Turkish government were received by the Israeli government. But this reaction did not turn into action. The bombs used in the bombing of our country arrive from Turkey. Again, according to what we have learned from you, there are a number of MPs who are members of the Turkish-Israeli Friendship Group in the Turkish National Assembly. But, what we want is concrete reactions. The Turkish government still have the status of being the biggest ally of the contractor gang!

What is the current state of your relations with the Socialist movement?

Hasan Nasrallah: The socialist movement, which has been away from international struggle, now for a considerable time, at last began to become a moral support for us once again. The most concrete example of this has been Hugo Chavez, the President of Venezuela. What most of the Muslim states could not do has been done by Chavez by the withdrawal of their ambassador to Israel. He furthermore communicated to us his support for our resistance. This has been an immense source of moral for us. We can observe a similar reaction within the Turkish Revolutionary Movement. We had socialist brothers from Turkey who went to Palestine in 1960s to fight against Israel. And one of them still remains in my memory and my heart; Deniz Gezmis..!

What is the importance of Denizs for you?

Hasan Nasrallah: We now want new Denizs. Our ranks are always open to new Denizs against the oppressors. Deniz will always live in the hearts of the peoples of Palestine and Lebanon� No-one should doubt this. Unfortunately, there is no longer a common fight and fraternity against the common enemy left over by the Denizs. What we would have liked is for our socialist brothers in Lebanon to fight against imperialism and Zionism shoulder to shoulder. This fight is not only our fight. It is the common fight of all those oppressed across the world. Don�t forget that if the peoples of Palestine and Lebanon lose this war, this will mean the defeat of all the oppressed people of the world. In our fight against imperialism, the revolutionaries should also undertake a responsibility and should become in the hearts of our people of Palestine and Lebanon, Denizs once again.

It is possible to see the posters of Che, Chavez, Ahmedinecad ve Hezbollah side by side in the streets of Beirut. Are these the signs of a new polarisation?

Hasan Nasrallah: We salute the leaders and the peoples of Latin America. They have resisted heroically against the American bandits and have been a source of moral for us. They are guiding the way for the oppressed peoples. Go and wonder around our streets..! You will witness how our people have embraced Chavez and Ernesto Che Guevara. Nearly in every house, you will come across posters of Che or Chavez. What we are saying to our socialist friends who want fight together with us for fraternity and freedom, do not come at all if you are going to say �Religion is an opiate�. We do not agree with this analysis. Here is the biggest proof of this in our streets with the pictures of Chavez, Che, Sadr and Hamaney waving along together. These leaders are saluting our people in unison. So long as we respect your beliefs, and you respect ours, there is no imperialist power we cannot defeat!

Returning to threats in the region, western governments are intensifying their pressure on Damascus and Tehran for which they are proposing a �change of regime.� Some sources are of the view that the attack on Lebanon will be directed on Syria. According to your point of view, is a regional war possible?

Hasan Nasrallah: The centres of imperialist power want to make collaborators of our region as a whole. They expect us to kneel before them. Syria, Iran and we are opposing this. The provocation concerning the former Lebanese Prime Minister Refik Hariri and the efforts to secure the withdrawal of Syrian army from Lebanon and going even further, their wish to attack callously on to Tehran and Damascus are all due to this reason. Syria, with Iran and Hezbollah will certainly resist this. We are going to resist for our motherland and freedom. We are going to resist in order not kneel before them. The imperialists of the west are seeking to make a second Kosovo out of Lebanon and our region. They are seeking to create a clash in between sects. But we have spoiled this trick. In our streets, the whole of Lebanon, with its Christian, Sunnis and Shias, are flying the flags of Hezbollah. Again, �the unipolar world� has already been left back in history. There is us, there is Iran, there is Syria, there is Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea. There are the resisting peoples of Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan! As long as there is imperialism and occupations, these people will continue resisting. They can forget about peace. If they want peace, they should now respect the freedom of peoples and should eliminate the collaborating gangs. God willing, the victory will be ours. They are not going to be able to turn our country and region into a Kosovo. Now our people are aware of everything and will not play into imperialist tricks.
We will absolutely not permit them to attack Iran or Syria. We are going to fight for our freedom to the last drop of our blood. Let no-one doubt this. They are claiming that Iran has nuclear weapons at its disposal. On the contrary, most of the nuclear weapons are in the hands of the collaborating gang of Israel and the US. Furthermore, nuclear weapons are nothing but excuses put forward in order to create collaborating regimes in the region.

There are claims that Hezbollah is being directed by Tehran. What are views on this issue?

Hasan Nasrallah: This is a great lie. We are an independent Lebanese organisation. We do not take orders from anyone. But this does not mean that we are not going to form alliances. Let me reiterate, we are on a side. We are on the side of Iran and Syria. They are our brothers. We are going to oppose any attack directed at Tehran and Damascus to the last drop of our blood just as we do in Lebanon. We uphold global resistance against global imperial terrorism.

Is there any other additional point you want to make?

Hasan Nasrallah: Peace cannot be unilateral. So long as there is imperialism in the world, a permanent peace is impossible. This war will not come to an end as long as there are occupations in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine.

Were French partisans called "terrorists"? Were they treated as terrorists?

So why are Arabic/Islamic militias suddenly "terrorists" in the western media? Something to do with Zionist controlled or biased media do you think?

If Hezbollah appear to be civilians it is because they, on the whole, are civilian.

Mr Nasrullah defends Hezbollah eloquently.

I believe nothing the Jews say because they have been caught lying at every turn in the histroy of their psychotic, racist cult. Does anyone still believe animosity to Jews from so many disparate races, societies and cultures over such long periods is coincidence? Or victimisation? If you do you probably believe in the Tooth Fairy. Jews bring their problems upon themselves. It's time they stopped blaming everyone else for their problems and abandoned their cultish adherence to nasty, racist and psychotic ideas.

As for "Nigel", I'd lay good money on him being Jewish and/or a shill. Who needs Zionist dominated Western media when you have "Nigel" at MIM?

Destroy the race hate state of Israel and return the land to it's rightful owners and peace will be restored in the Middle East. It's that simple.

Peace to my brothers and sisters of the Middle East.

Perhaps the psychotic racist hypocrite who wants to destroy Israel meant this cult?

Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue

In a rare criticism of the kingdom's powerful "mutaween" police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.

About 800 pupils were inside the school in the holy city of Mecca when the tragedy occurred.

According to the al-Eqtisadiah daily, firemen confronted police after they tried to keep the girls inside because they were not wearing the headscarves and abayas (black robes) required by the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.

One witness said he saw three policemen "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya".

The Saudi Gazette quoted witnesses as saying that the police - known as the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice - had stopped men who tried to help the girls and warned "it is a sinful to approach them".

The father of one of the dead girls said that the school watchman even refused to open the gates to let the girls out.

"Lives could have been saved had they not been stopped by members of the Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice," the newspaper concluded.

The school was locked at the time of the fire - a usual practice to ensure full segregation of the sexes.

The religious police are widely feared in Saudi Arabia. They roam the streets enforcing dress codes and sex segregation, and ensuring prayers are performed on time.

Those who refuse to obey their orders are often beaten and sometimes put in jail.

Bring it on?
by Your days are numbered Saturday August 26, 2006 at 12:57 PM

"Never forget September the 11th!"

I won't. It will live forever as a sign of vulnerability of a corrupt, decaying empire. It was a great day.

Suck it up baby, it was only the beginning. There's plenty more to come.

It's just the psychotic, racist cult and a minority of corrupt, brainfucked Americans versus the rest of the world.

And if the world doesn't get you first, it's only a matter of time before blacks and hispanics tear the States apart from the inside. What then bubba? Your arse will fry.

Ssssssssss, mmmm, what's that smell? Nazis arse.

Good luck with your little project to take out a quarter of the world's population, Pointer... I guess that'll be you and Olmet and Alexander Downer and Vin Diesel on a global rampage thinning numbers to make Lebensraum for the chosen people...

might have to take on the rest of us while you're on your little fantasy killing spree, though... that's the thing, rest of the world is applauding Hezbollah and looking forward to the restoration of peace in the Moslem world following the evacuation of Israel.

Only a few months ago suggesting that the Israeli experiment be brought to an end was considered in poor taste in polite conversation. Now, though, it's entirely accepted, and needs no explanation - mention this resolution of the problem and people immediately warm to the idea. Why? Because the sight of the IDF in action is fresh in their minds, and because they've been exposed to the fanatical dogma spouted by cheesy hacks like Pointer here...

While your statements are undoubtedly profoundly offensive to many others, personally I'm not about to convert to either Judaism or Islam..

keep it coming though... this stream-of-consciousness material is an excellent demonstration of the reason non-Moslems like myself living halfway around the world from Israel support Israel's adversaries, and have come to believe the continuation of the failed Israeli experiment can only be counter-productive.

look you can't have your cake and eat it too... strikes me as somewhat ironic that you accuse me of being a nazi while endorsing the genocide of more than a billion people..

again, I'm not sure the arguments you're putting forward now for giving greater consideration to the Israeli side are likely to win you many converts... might want to ease up on the murderous rage, scatalogical references, and calls for mass slaughter.

happy to see you in the streets though, someday,
Zionist tool.

With the States and Israel slowly but inexorably disappearing up their own arseholes, who will come to their rescue?

Blair? Howard (and his 2600 unemployable misfit losers)?

How about Russia? Europe? China? India?

Not looking so good for you Zionazi cultists now is it?

So what does the quicksand puss of your psychotic delusions taste like now?

What did the Shrub say..."bring it on" wasn't it? Yeah, that was another gem of wisdom. Is it "on" enough for you?

Last year you right wing zionazi types were all full of yourselves. You aren't so smug now are you? Do I detect a note of panic? Hysteria even?

Time to move in for the kill.

this thread and a few others like it just got worth writing a paper on ... most people dont realise that the vocalisation of the extremist pro-Israeli viewpoint that motivated recent wanton destruction in Lebanon is so readily available online. Gives an unpleasant insight into the fanatical extremes on both sides in conflict in the Middle East.

The Zionist rhetoric here employed includes language similar to that that motivated the Rwandan massacre and that accompanies the persecution of minorities in cultures such as Nazi Germany, and to a lesser extent modern Australia and the US. It's dehumanising, hysterical, and promises violence against innocent people based on their beliefs.

Even if you do consider anyone who supports the evacuation of Israel a 'nazi', which I would say is drawing a very long bow, its rank hypocrisy to sink to exactly that level in presenting your mythic narrative of superiority and blame.

WHO IS HE WORKING FOR?

"Nigel leaves up all the anti-Arab race hate"

Huh?
Oh! Yr deliberately lying!

Yaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn

:)

And for every anti-Arab race hate post he hides, he hides an anti-racist post. My question remains: WHO IS HE WORKING FOR?

"Nigel leaves up a representative sample of anti-Arab race hate posts"

I wasn't aware that a picture depicting the Ashoura ritual, and an article about Saudi police murdering schoolgirls represented an "anti-Arab race hate post" - regardless of the intention of its author.
I notice you haven't extended your sanctimonious bleatings to "As for "Nigel", I'd lay good money on him being Jewish..." - as though being Jewish (which I'm not, anyway) has any bearing on the matter.

I also wasn't aware that -
"Nothing. More Jew lies."
"At least they fight like men and not the Israelis who fight like girls"
"Wasn't he the patriot who did what he could to prevent his country being invaded and over-run by a cult of psychotic, racist cockroaches?" ["The patriot" being a reference to Haj Amin Al Husseini - the British appointed Mufti of Jerusalem, who stoked anti-Jewish riots while his Effendi class gangster mates made a fortune selling land to zionists while murdering small Arab landholders as "traitors" for doing the same thing. Who then became a senior Nazi who Hitler put in charge of the final solution in the Balkans.]
"I'm heading out into the sun to make some Jews feel uncomfortable."
"nigel is ZION-NAZI, you maggot"
- represent "anti-racist posts"

Thankyou for your admission of error, but it clearly doesn't go far enough.

Who do you work for, btw?

I just know that you spread Zionist propaganda. Why? Who are you working for?

Nothing like a bit of BS sophistry on a Sunday evening.....

"I never thought you were Jewish"

I never said you did!
What I *did* say was, "**I notice you haven't extended your sanctimonious bleatings** to "As for "Nigel", I'd lay good money on him being Jewish..." - as though being Jewish (which I'm not, anyway) has any bearing on the matter. "
[Emphasis added]

Besides, if by some chance it was you who made that silly comment - "I'd lay good money on him being Jewish..." - then clearly "I never thought you were Jewish" is a lie.

"I just know that you spread Zionist propaganda."

I wasn't aware that evidence based analysis which can be checked and rebutted if necessary was "propaganda". Please explain how you came to such an anti-rational position, and please explain why you seem to think that *lies* (as opposed to evidence-based criticism) about Israel or zionism or Jews shouldn't be exposed.

*What* are you working for?

Maybe you should revive your old habit of checking and logging static IP addresses Nigel (if you aren't just flying a false flag as a fade that is). You would see I am a different person to the other poster.

If you aren't Jewish then you'd be a shill. No dramas or much difference there.

Perhaps you'd failed to notice most Western media is rabidly pro-Jew and decided to bring some journalistic "balance" to MIM?

I doubt it.

Is there a reason why the world shoud be pro-Islamofeces?

Be specific. Give examples.

"Is there a reason why the world shoud be pro-Islamofeces?"

The reason the world should support Islamic nations is because they have been invaded by, and are now occupied by, foreign militaristic powers. Any fair minded and honest person would acknowledge this fact.

The fact that these nations are considered Islamic is irrelevant to everyone but Christian and Jewish zealots. It wouldn't matter what race, nation or creed they are, I would still admire their determination to resist a violent invader and oppressor despite the overwhelming odds.

The Jews started this war and then manipulated their war mongering mates to become involved. But you knew that already didn't you?

If we removed the eugenic race hate cult from Islam's homelands, "Islam" (the word Islam is, in effect, a generic term for indigenous Middle East peoples) would mind it's own business.

How many people must be slaughtered in order to call a killing spree a "massacre", nigel?

Do you blog?

How many people must be slaughtered in order to call a killing spree a "massacre", nigel?