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Gary Meyerhoff's NAP/DIM collective lied
by mick lambe
Sunday May 15, 2005 at 12:51 PM
pariahnt@yahoo.com 0404772989 One Mile Dam Aboriginal Community
[Unhidden - does not breach EdPol 15/5/05, 10:25am (Ed - Nigel)]
According to Fiona...
"Neither Rob Inder-Smith nor Gary Meyerhoff were expelled from the DIM Collective." - http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-darwin/2005-March/0331-8f.html - Well that's not what Fiona's hand-written minutes state.
http://country-liberal-party.com/images/Rough_Draft_of_DIM_minutes_06_02_05.jpg
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The story so far...
Meyerhoff and Inder-Smith were expelled from the (legitimate) DIM collective for serious breaches of indymedia protocol.
2 months later Viki and Fiona claimed these expulsions never occurred and the minutes were "fabricated".
This occurred shortly after Mick refused to associate with Fiona anymore.
Fiona and Viki were then expelled for lying.
perth.indymedia (who host DIM) tried to force the legitimate collective to meet with the expelled people - naturally we refused. Only a moron would meet with people that lie about meetings.
perth.indymedia then gave DIM to the expelled people and changed the passwords without notification.
More detail here - http://lists.cat.org.au/pipermail/imc-oceania/2005-March/thread.html
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email to oceania and darwin imc lists
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Subject - Gary Meyerhoff is to blame for the lies and paternalistic racism we have endured...
Hi all
...Meyerhoff's abuse of drug users (organising this illegitimate coup with Fiona and Viki) and obvious hatred and envy of myself is apparent. Meyerhoff is a sad and talentless little tyrant.
DIM IMC list
[imc-darwin] More crap from Mick Lambe hidden Gary Meyerhoff
[imc-darwin] Mick Lambe continues his crap.... must have nothing better to do! Gary Meyerhoff
"Fiona, who gives a rat's arse what Mick is saying?" - http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-darwin/2005-May/0508-73.html
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According to Fiona...
"Neither Rob Inder-Smith nor Gary Meyerhoff were expelled from the DIM Collective."
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-darwin/2005-March/0331-8f.html
Viki stated...
"In support of Fi's email, I was at the meeting where Mick Lamb's fabricated minutes were derived from, as an observer and possible new collective and what Fi is saying is true."
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-darwin/2005-April/0401-u9.html
Viki's post to Oceania - http://lists.cat.org.au/pipermail/imc-oceania/2005-March/002583.html and a swag of comments by Fiona (prior to my refusing to associate with her) demonstrate that Inder-Smith and Meyerhoff were not only expelled - but held in the deepest contempt by Fiona. "Sexist and racist creeps, etc..."
Fiona has admitted that the Yahoo messenger post in which she describes Meyerhoff Inder-Smith and others as "sik c__nts" is a true account.
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-darwin/2005-May/0507-5w.html
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Most of you chose to ignore that evidence and accepted as truth allegations of my being a despot (despots don't normally do all the work) and our Aboriginal members being simple folk who didn't know what was going on.
You ignored our majority version of events, the threats and insults at our home, the withdrawal of our ISP due to NAP complaints, the threads attacking us on various Oz indymedias and the spam on DIM.
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/NAP_racist_disrespect.htm
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/NAP_racist_paternalism.htm
Well I just moved a table in my room (cleaning up) and found the original hand-written minutes by Fiona.
Obviously they are rough notes which is why they were typed up and edited by the collective prior to sending.
It is clear that the final minutes derive from this rough draft.
It is clear the legitimate DIM collective told the truth.
It is clear the present NAP/DIM collective did not.
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ROUGH DRAFT MINUTES - February 6, 2005
Meeting started late - 4-20pm
Present Mick - Viki - Fi - David timber - Freddie - Mindy
Housekeeping
Gary meyerhoff was evicted from OMD start of meeting (because) he's broken principles of unity also cyberstalking collective members, use of DIM to support NAP, threatening collective members and the use of Police when that didn't work and has shown himself unreliable with funding and has stolen money and equipment off another collective member and guilty of racism and sexism.
{Fi is referring to Meyerhoff ripping her off over a drug deal and stealing her phone charger which she found later}
2. We looked at DIM website
a) ??? - inappropriate actions by non-collective member.
Unanimous that we don't want untrustworthy and devisive people.
eg Women's rights, Invasion Day, East timor (Features) Tsunami. {Should follow? "2. We looked at DIM website"}
Oceania, Global - we are doing job of fulfilling mission statement - no racism, sexism , removing culturally inappropriate posts - explained Aboriginal protocol on DIM.
b) Perth - our server is on Perth's server, so how much is done by Gary? He has been asking for contributions to his group NAP.
Ends _____
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http://country-liberal-party.com/images/Rough_Draft_of_DIM_minutes_06_02_05.jpg
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Obviously the inclusion of Inder-Smith (to be expelled)and other details were added or deleted in the final draft of the minutes which all collective members then passed unanimously.
That's how most minutes are drawn up.
We are totally vindicated and would like to be hosted by an indymedia that doesn't believe it has a right to tell us what to do.
We stuck to our guns and refused the offer of another indymedia, because that would have made a mockery of indymedia principles - as the offer which was logically inconsistent - did.
perth are obviously confused about their role in hosting indymedias.
Please don't insult us any further by trying to put spin on this. Obviously discussion took place that was not recorded by Fiona but was included in the final draft. Same as in every other meeting that has been held on this planet.
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"fi here, I did not write these "minutes".
In item 1: Mick has used a minor truth..."Gary Myerhoff was asked to leave..." then concocted a long story of supposed crimes to back this up."
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-darwin/2005-May/0512-e5.html
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Sent to perth February 6, 2005
No Cc Bcc
Minutes - Darwin indymedia meeting - One Mile Dam community
February 6, 2005
Present - Vikki, Fi, Mindy, David, Freddy, Mick
Meeting started 4-30pm
- Business
1. Gary Myerhoff was asked to leave for (irreconcilable) breaches of the Principles of Unity... (Robert Inder-Smith did not show, but is similarily ejected from the darwin.indymedia collective.) ...these include (far from comprehensive) Cyberstalking collective members and attacking other political groups (often anonomously) Such divisiveness is not acceptable - The use of DIM as a promotional tool for NAP - Abusing a female collective member and attempting to intimidate another collective member (using Robert Inder-Smith) and when that failed, calling the NT Police for no reason, save drug-induced arrogance and paranoia.
Mr Meyerhoff's unique use of funding and donations, has seen the Territory Users Forum (TUF) gutted. Nepotism in the NAP-run TUF towards NAP members was blatant and ensured Meyerhoff's domination. The darwin indymedia collective is anxious to avoid the same fate.
We need workers not leaders. We had better already know what we're doing.
Apart from some articles about NAP (and how many ways people can donate) Myerhoff and Inder-Smith have contributed little to DIM, while doing their best to take it over, as happened with TUF.
Moving posts (Baxter convergence, anti-nuke, etc...) that Meyerhoff and Co felt were crowding their NAP articles, is unacceptable, as is complaining about (and removing) feminist posts.
These posts were reinstated - sometimes more than once - and were often part of a 'network post' - the darwin url being used in posts to other groups - German anti-nuke, etc...
We may need all the help we can get up here soon.
A recent disafilliation with NAP/TUF by an Alice Springs drug users group, the closure of the TUF office and the loss of NAP supporters (most owed money) is enough reason to disassociate from Myerhoff and Inder-Smith.
Promotion and fund-raising for DIM has been impossible due to their presence. Darwin is a (too) small country town.
Association with people who are more fixated on their group (and attacking other groups) than the issues they purport to represent can only harm us. We really need unity up here right now.
Numerous (anonymous) threats and insults have been posted on darwin.indymedia during the period that people have refused to associate with NAP/TUF. They echo an earlier attempt (same theme) to remove any opposition to (what was) an essentially NAP/DIM collective.
Using the NT Police to shore up a failed attempt at intimidation, has lost NAP a lot of support. Other threats, to "...get some blokes to do Mick over" - have not been appreciated by the collective.
Mr Meyerhoff who chose not to defend his actions before leaving the meeting - stated a number of times - "If that's the way you want it". This may have been posed as yet another threat.
And yes, this is how the DIM collective "want it".
We don't want collective members who contribute nothing (apart from Troll attacks) act divisively and use the NT Police, when their threats against another collective member fail to intimidate.
Unanimous ___________________________________________
2. We had a look at the DIM site. The collective were happy with the quality of features, etc... and the editing that "preserve(s) the quality of the website as a useful media resource." They were also made aware of perth.indymedia's role (when they queried passwords being used by ex-collective members) in establishing darwin.indymedia.
3. We discussed DIM's Aboriginal protocol. The significance of our venue at an Aboriginal community (in relation to our aims) is an important one.
4. We request a new password from Perth to stop attacks on DIM by ex-collective members.
Please send to Fi, Mick,
. We have plans to promote DIM and to get more people involved from other groups. The Nuke Rail, Baxter convergeance and other issues, need addressing - something we can only do with a collective that views such matters seriously.
6. Meeting closed 5-30.
7. Next meeting at OMD - April 3, 2005
Unanimous on all counts _________________________________
- Fiona (minutes) __________________________________
It is clear our minutes derive from Fiona's rough draft. It is also very clear that Viki and Fiona chose to work with people (they) expelled for serious breaches of indymedia protocol, in order to cause us harm for refusing to associate with Fiona. As I pointed out repeatedly that's why it took two months to fabricate their story.
We are not into gloating we just want to get back to work. We've all wasted enough time on this matter and these sad, screwed-up people.
Let's just see indymedia correct a mistake efficiently and quickly.
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Our thanks to changeling (Nigel) of melbourne.indymedia and Dave Fregon (subscriber Oceania indymedia) for supporting and believing in 'Australia's' first black majority imc.
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mick, david, mindy, freddy - darwin indymedia collective
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