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Disgusting Trotskyist Anti-semitism
by pr
Monday August 23, 2004 at 03:23 AM
The enemy's ( Israel and it's backers) enemy ( Taliban supporters ) are not necessarily our friends.
They are , maybe, when they attack the Pentagon of the Great Staten but when they talk about Jews like they are the new Nazi's then that's where I and many others draw the line. We see finishing the good work of WW2 as hanging Nazi's who got away not finishing their ' Final Solution" operation.
So whats news about any of this? Well seen this?...
>>> I’m with Hicks
Review by Paul Benedek
The President Versus David Hicks Written and directed by Curtis Levy & Bentley Dean Screening nationally
“When we took on this film project we were going to follow the legal proceedings around the arrest of David Hicks”, filmmaker Curtis Levy told the Sydney opening night of The President Versus David Hicks. “After several months, it became clear that wouldn’t be possible — there weren’t going to be any legal proceedings.”
The President Versus David Hicks traces the journey of David Hicks’ father Terry Hicks, as he searches for answers as to why his son is being held without charge and without legal rights or representation in a small cage at the Guantanamo Bay US naval base.
David’s story is told through his letters home. Having been affected by watching Muslims being killed in Kosova, he travelled and joined the Kosova Liberation Army. Hicks travelled continued to Pakistan, Kashmir and on to Afghanistan, as his interest in Islam grew.
Terry Hicks traces his son’s footsteps across the world, using David’s letters as a guide. But Terry Hicks’ journey is also a struggle for justice and truth.
“These people [Guantanamo detainees] are terrorists, killers. They only know a country when its weak and they want to occupy it like a parasite”, US President George Bush proclaimed.
But legal experts, human rights organisations, and many others disagree with Bush’s claims. “Once you have a situation where people can’t go to a court to test why they’re being held, you have the beginnings of a police state”, an attorney states, while the extent of undemocratic practices — allowing evidence obtained through torture, military-appointed lawyers and judges, and more — are revealed.
The President Versus David Hicks is thoroughly honest and compelling. Terry Hicks has never been a political activist — he is simply a loving father seeking justice in adversity. He was so determined to see some justice that he traveled to New York, erected a cage identical in size to that imprisoning his son in Guantanamo, and stood for hours in the cage on a busy street, to draw attention to his son’s plight.
David Hicks emerges a very real, complex person. Terry doesn’t ask for his son to be freed unconditionally — but that he be charged if he has committed a crime, and given the right to defend himself. Under particular fire is the Australian government’s dismal unwillingness to push that its citizens be returned, which even London has done.
On the night the film opened in Sydney, Hicks’ fellow Australian incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, Mamdouh Habib, was telling his wife of the sleep deprivation and torture he was experiencing — until the call was cut off. Habib begged his wife not to send any more family photos — Habib’s lawyer later explaining that they are used in “interrogation”.
At the Sydney opening, Terry Hicks stressed that his primary concern is the release of all incarcerated in Guantanamo — not just Hicks and Habib, but also the over 500 others. Fellow filmmaker Bentley Dean announced, to cheers, that Terry Hicks had been nominated for father of the year. If unassuming humanity and the quest for justice are taken into account, he should be a sure thing.
From Green Left Weekly, August 25, 2004. Visit the Green Left Weekly home page. <<<
Now the Trotskyist sect running GLW as a capitalist concern will say that this is just one reviewers opinion, yaada, yaada, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah but some of us might want to flag this article for several reasons.
Like why provide the space for it?
I mean we all heard David's disgusting letters from Ghan - Dad didn't bat an eyelid or lift a biro and GLW want to make him father of the year?
A truly loving father would have asked him where he got all those nasty ideas about Jews from wouldn't he?
David Hicks wrote sickening fascist puke from Afghanistan about the Jews he was fighting and hoping to destroy - the JEWS, not the Zionists or the Americans.
He sure doesn't deserve what he's going through just for that but no 'progressive' and ' socialist' website should have a bar of expressing this sort of uncritical slavish support for such obvious sickening Hitlerian anti-semitism.
Just my 2 shekels. Shalom.
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hi pr, reader of GLW, become a Friend of GLW :)
by FoGLW
Monday August 23, 2004 at 08:21 AM
GLW@greenleft.org.au +61 2 9690 1220
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(and you forgot to post this too to the melbourner indymedia newswire...)
Googling Green Left Weekly
As the Green Left Weekly website continues to be the number 1 political website in Australia, we're discovering its prominence on the search engine Google.
A friend of one of our Canberra GLW distributors wanted to catch up with the latest gossip from Survivor by checking out Who Weekly magazine on the web. So they did a Google search for “who weekly australia”, and was surprised to find GLW first and second on the resulting list.
So we tried a few other combinations: “left australia” came up number one and two, with “weekly green” GLW was at number five, for “left”, we were at number eight.
Of course, searching for green left weekly (or any combination of the three words) gets about 98 of the first 100, either our site, links to us by friendly sites, translations, and the occasional right wing attack. Google returns a total of 1.6 million results, many of which would be relevant to us. “Green Left Weekly” in quotes returns 45,500 pages, while 55,700 pages contain greenleft.org.au.
Entering “Green Left Weekly” Hitwise returns the sites that carried the report by web-ranking company Hitwise about the GLW website's popularity. We were ranked the second most popular political web site for Australians after Michael Moore's site. Wondering what link there might be between Michael Moore and Australia, we entered “michael moore australia” and sure enough, the first three sites listed are for GLW.
On a hunch, and looking forward to the elections, we tried “throw howard out” and up popped GLW for the first three pages! Wondering how good Google really was we tried “end the lies”, and again, the first two sites were GLW. We tried “troops out now!”, and yet again, GLW had the top two listings. Smart searching!
From Green Left Weekly, August 25, 2004. Visit the Green Left Weekly home page.
www.greenleft.org.au/
What are you on pr?
by rat watcher
Monday August 23, 2004 at 10:42 AM
You have written tons of posts about Guantanamo bay and both Habib and Hicks. WHy are you criticising GLW for doing the same?
Dangerous nonsense
by pr
Monday August 23, 2004 at 04:11 PM
What no one disputing my main points?
I have been learning about some of the deep seated anti-semitism whites bought to this place with their nazi invasion, but it seems I underestimated it. It appears we might all well learn something from this wicca website...
http://wiccanhistorian.home.att.net/histories/persecutionjews.html
It appears rooted in religion and just as GLW love capitalism it would appear that they also have a soft spot for popular religious bigotry and racism. The sort of rank opportunists who would pose as green 20 years after another rank opportunist, Michael Kroger.
GLW Trot Panderers. I generally approve of populism but this is pandering of the worst sort.
And , yes I wrote a lot about Gitmo and the Aussies there and I still will even though I'm now informed of the crass anti-semitic nastiness propagated by these 2. Just because the witchhunts and all the other holocausts almost certainly got rid of a few who richly deserved it doesn't make it allright. And just cos Gitmo makes lawyers obsolete doesnt make it allright either.
Knowing what we now know about these two, Hicks and Habib means we should offer them CONDITIONAL support until they express their solidarity with jews working hard for the global justice movement.
I think it should be blindingly obvious that you cant slag off jews en masse and call yrself a part of the global justice movement at the same time.
GLW must disavow the author of this review, apologize for the harm done and take more care in future or be condemned for the mercenary, opportunistic, capitalist, sectarian creeps that they so manifestly are.
Hideous gloating toady's and cheats never prosper so neither should GLW. BOYCOTT GLW PEOPLE.
You know it makes sense.
Why is a Red fascist holocaust denier any better than a Brown one anyway?
Is Pr Spinifex?
by Is Pr Spinifex?
Monday August 23, 2004 at 07:41 PM
They are starting to sound more and more alike every day.
Pr zionist holocaust denial
by Pr getting senile
Monday August 23, 2004 at 07:52 PM
Its also interesting that while you have been raving on an on about "anti-semitism" lately you have also refused to aknowledge the part that zionists played in the holocaust. You are continually using the issue of anti-semitism to slag off anybody you disagree with and justify any crazy right-wing conspiracy theory you come up with. Do you want to associate all Jews with filthy zionist fascism (they wont thank you for it)? Do you want to assiciate anybody who stands up against US imperialism with anti-semitism? Are you a zionist Pr?
......
by ......
Monday August 23, 2004 at 07:58 PM
And you have repeatedly expressed support for the Tallian (unlike GLW). WHy the sudden change of heart?
Soothing the savage troll's breast
by pr
Tuesday August 24, 2004 at 10:10 PM
Last I looked Spinner still supported the illegal agressive invasion of SW Asia - I don't so , no I'm not Spinster. Typical strawman. ( or grasping at straws )
Much like most of troll two's rants.
Yes I recognize Zionists role in the brown holocaust - do you recognize Lenin and Trotskys role in all the RED HOLOCAUSTs?
Ohhhhw! Look 'pr' disagree's with a sectarian bunch of capitalist, authoritarian wankers and liars!
He must be right wing!
Yeah right - brilliant trolls just fucking brilliant.
Another trot sects version
by pr again
Tuesday August 24, 2004 at 10:23 PM
A slightly more evolved trot sectlet handles this better here...
Bolshevik Current for the Fourth International The Bolshevik Current for the Fourth International is a Trotskyist international organisation besed in Argentina. It consists of the Partido Bolchevique por la Cuarta Internacional in Argentina, the Bolshevik Internationalist League in Brazil, and the Communist Workers' Group in the United States and Canada.
See also: List of Trotskyist internationals ..... Click the link for more information. Committee for a Marxist International The Committee for a Marxist International is a London-based Trotskyist tendency based on the ideas of Ted Grant and Alan Woods. Grant was the long time leader of the Militant Tendency in the British Labour Party until many of his supporters were expelled. At that point Militant split into two factions. The majority formed Militant Labour outside the Labour Party, which subsequentially became the Socialist Party. Grant maintained that Marxists should remain within mainstream Labour, and formed the Workers International League which is better known by the name of its publication, Socialist Appeal. ..... Click the link for more information. Committee for a Workers International The Committee for a Workers' International (CWI) is an international association of Trotskyist Parties. Members include the Socialist Party of England and Wales, the Socialist Party (Ireland), the Socialist Party (Australia) the Democratic Socialist Movement in South Africa and Nigeria and groups using the name Socialist Alternative in the United States, Canada and New Zealand along with parties in Sweden, Germany - representatives in 40 countries worldwide making the CWI the second largest Trotskyist international after the United Secretariat of the Fourth International. ..... Click the link for more information. Communist Organisation for a Fourth International The Communist Organisation for a Fourth International (COFI) is a Trotskyist international. It was founded by the American organisation the League for the Revolutionary Party (LRP). It has had sections in Sweden and Australia in the past. Currently it's only members outside of the USA are in Australia and Germany.
See also: List of Trotskyist internationals
External links ..... Click the link for more information. Coordination Committee for the Construction of the International Workers Party (KoorKom) International Bolshevik Tendency The International Bolshevik Tendency is a Trotskyist international organisation. It was formed by former members of the International Spartacist Tendency (iSt) in the USA and Canada, but many of its current members are not former Spartacists. The IBT group in Germany was also drawn from members of the iSt who had formed the Group IV Internationale (GIVI) before joining the newly formed IBT as the Spartacus Group. The IBT section in New Zealand, the Permanent Revolution Group (PRG), was founded by former Spartacist leader Bill Logan, expelled by the Spartacist League in 1979 for "gross moral turpitude". ..... Click the link for more information. International Centre of Orthodox Trotskyism The International Centre of Orthodox Trotskyism (Centro Internacional del Trotskismo Ortodoxo in Spanish) is a Trotskyist international grouping. It split from the International Workers League (Fourth International) in 1994, and claims to follow in the tradition of Nahuel Moreno. The grouping includes:
Partido de la Revolución Socialista (Argentina) Comité Iniciativa Obrera Socialista, (Argentina) Partido Socialista de los Trabajadores (Colombia) Partido Revolucionario de los Trabajadores (Costa Rica) Partido de los Trabajadores, (Honduras) Organización Socialista Revolucionaria de los Trabajadores, (Mexico) Partido Revolucionario de los Trabajadores (Nicaragua) Partido Socialista de los Trabajadores (Paraguay)
..... Click the link for more information. International Committee of the Fourth International The International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI) was a Trotskyist international network, formed in 1953 by groups who disagreed with the course of the Fourth International under Michel Raptis (Pablo) and Ernest Mandel. The split was co-ordinated by the American section, the Socialist Workers Party, and included the British section under Gerry Healy and the French Parti Communiste Internationaliste (PCI). Small groups in various other countries, notably Nahuel Moreno's group in Argentina, also joined. ..... Click the link for more information. International Communist League (Fourth Internationalist) The International Communist League (Fourth Internationalist) (formerly the International Spartacist Tendency) is a Trotskyist international organisation. It consists of the various Trotskyist groups, many named the Spartacist League. The most prominent section of the international is in the United States, and there are smaller sections in Mexico, Canada, western Europe, Japan, South Africa and Australia. They named themselves after the original Spartacist League of Germany. ..... Click the link for more information. International Liaison Committee for a Workers' International The International Liasion Committee for a Workers' International is a Trotskyist international grouping around Pierre Lambert's Parti des Travailleurs in France. Founded in 1991, it includes the Parti des Travailleurs (Algeria), Soziale Politik und Demokratie in Germany, Información Obrera in Spain, Arbetarnas Internationella Nätverk in Sweden and Socialist Organiser in the United States. ..... Click the link for more information. International Secretariat of the Fourth International Initially the title International Secretariat of the Fourth International was the name given to the executive committee responsible for the regular operation of the Fourth International (FI) founded in 1938. It was theoretically answerable to the International Executive committee between full Congresses of the International. However in fact, as noted by Leon Trotsky, none of these bodies actually functioned. Instead the International functioned on an ad hoc basis in prior to its centre being moved to New York after the Second World War began. ..... Click the link for more information. International Socialist Tendency The International Socialist Tendency is an international grouping of organisations around the ideas of Tony Cliff, founder of the Socialist Workers Party in the UK. It has sections across the world, however its strongest presence is in Europe, especially in the UK and Ireland. The politics of the IST are similar to the politics of many Trotskyist Internationals. Where it differs with many is on the question of the Soviet Union, the IST adopting the position that it was state capitalist, rather than a degenerated worker's state, and the theories of the permanent arms economy and deflected permanent revolution. ..... Click the link for more information. International Trotskyist Committee for the Political Regeneration of the Fourth International International Trotskyist Opposition The International Trotskyist Opposition is a Trotskyist international organisation. Its affiliated organisations were within the International Trotskyist Committee and were seeking to implement that tendency's policy of relating to the larger forces of the United Secretariat of the Fourth International when they broke away from it. In most countries where thay have supporters they are members of the USFI grouping in that state. This was the case in Italy where there largest national grouping, Proposta, joined the USFI in the Party of Communist Refoundation. However they are now an autonomous grouping in themselves within the PRC. ..... Click the link for more information. International Workers League (Fourth International) The International Workers League (Fourth International) or IWLfi (Spanish: Liga Internacional de los Trabajadores (Quarta Internacional) or LITci) is a Morenist Trotskyist international organisation. Its members include the International Socialist Leagues of the UK and Australia and parties in South America including Frente Obrero Socialista (FOS) in Argentina and Partido Socialista dos Trabalhadores Unificado in Brazil. ..... Click the link for more information. International Workers' Unity (Fourth International) International Workers' Unity (Fourth International) (Spanish: Unidad Internacional de los Trabajadores (Cuarta Internacional))is a Trotskyist international organisation. It has members in South America, Western Europe and the CIS. Members include Movimiento Socialista de los Trabajadores in Argentina, Corriente Socialista de los Trabajadores in Brazil, and Movimiento por el Socialismo in Portugal. ..... Click the link for more information. Internationalist Communist Union The Internationalist Communist Union (in French, Union Communiste Internationaliste) is an international grouping of Trotskyist political parties, centred on Lutte Ouvrière in France. Other parties in the international tendency include Combat Ouvrier in Martinique and Guadeloupe, The Spark in the United States and Workers' Fight in Britain. There is also a grouping of African militants living in France, a group in the Ivory Coast named the UATCI, a Turkish group and a group in Haiti. ..... Click the link for more information. League for the Fifth International The League for the Fifth International (LFI or L5I) is an international grouping of Trotskyist organisations. Its members include Workers Power in Britain and Australia, Gruppe Arbeitermacht in Germany, Arbetarmakt in Sweden, SOP in Czech Republic, the Irish Workers' Group and ArbeiterInnen Standpunkt in Austria. It was founded as the Movement for a Revolutionary Communist International ..... Click the link for more information.
League for the Fourth International The League for the Fourth International is a Trotskyist international organisation. It was formed by members who were expelled from the Spartacist League's international the International Communist League (Fourth Internationalist) in 1996. The leading member is Jan Norden, former editor of the SL's newspaper Worker's Vanguard and founder of the LFI's American section, the Internationalist Group. ..... Click the link for more information. Liaison Committee for the Reconstruction of the Fourth International The Liaison Committee for the Reconstruction of the Fourth International (Comité de Enlace por la Reconstrución de la IV Internacional in Spanish) is a Trotskyist international. Its members include the Partido Obrero Revolucionario (Argentina) and the Partido Obrero Revolucionario (Masas) in Bolivia. See also: List of Trotskyist internationals ..... Click the link for more information. Liaison Committee of Militants for a Revolutionary Communist International Movement (Movimiento) Movement for the Refoundation of the Fourth International The Movement for the Refoundation of the Fourth International (Spanish: Movimiento por la Refundación de la IV° Internacional) is a Trotskyist international organisation. It has members in South America, Western Europe and the Middle East. Member parties include Partido Obrero in Argentina, Associazione marxista rivoluzionaria Progetto comunista in Italy and the Workers Revolutionary Party of Greece. ..... Click the link for more information. New Course Organizing Committee of Principist Trotskyism (Fourth International) The Organizing Committee of Principist Trotskyism (Fourth International) (Spanish: Comité Organizador del Trotskismo Principista (Cuarta Internacional)) is a Trotskyist international organisation.
External Link GOICI See also: List of Trotskyist internationals ..... Click the link for more information. Trotskyist Fraction - International Strategy The Trotskyist Fraction - International Strategy (Spanish: Fracción Trotskysta - Estrategia Internacional) is a Trotskyist international organisation. It was formed by the Argentine PTS and the Mexican LTS which split from the Morenoista international grouping. At one point the FT was in talks with theLRCI concerning fusion but after talks broke down for the second time rejected the approaches of the far smaller LRCI. ..... Click the link for more information. Trotskyist-Posadist IVth International The Trotskyist-Posadist IVth International is a Trotskyist international organisation founded in 1962 by J. Posadas who was leader of the Latin America Bureau of the Fourth International in the 1950s as well as the section of the FI in Argentina. Posadism as an ideology, is optimistic at the potential for Third World revolution, enhusiastic about nuclear war and space exploration by the USSR and the People's Republic of China, has an esoteric concern for “harmonisation” and “man's relationship to the earth, to nature and to the cosmos”. believes that UFOs come from a socialist future or alien socialist planet. Fringe science experiments involving dolphins and water birthing are also popular themes. ..... Click the link for more information.
United Secretariat of the Fourth International The United Secretariat of the Fourth International (USFI) is a Trotskyist international organisation. It consists of parties such as Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire in France, the International Socialist Group in the UK. The USFI was created by the 1963 merger of two factions of the Fourth International, the International Secretariat of the Fourth International and the International Committee of the Fourth International that had originally parted ways in 1953. However, a minority of the ICFI refused to join the merger and continued as a separate International Committee of the Fourth International. As well, the "reunited" Fourth International suffered a myriad of splits in the following decades. ..... Click the link for more information.
Workers International to Rebuild the Fourth International The Workers International to Rebuild the Fourth International is an Trotskyist international organisation. It is based in the United Kingdom and consists of a tiny remnant of the Workers Revolutionary Party. it may still claim the support of the WRP of Namibia and a small group of supporters in South Africa. Otherwise it seems moribund. In Britain its supporters are active in the Socialist Alliance and the Democracy Platform of that grouping. ..... Click the link for more information.
Whoops, I seem to have lost that reference but it's in there somewhere among the sectarians all, ( and cobblers awls )
" antisemitic diatribes..."
by WSWS
Tuesday August 24, 2004 at 10:33 PM
RP:( for the WSWS ) The citing of David Hicks’ letters in the film helps to puncture the government and media sensationalism.
C.Levy:( Director of doco ) Yes, I found his letters absolutely fascinating. They provide some real insights into how he changed and got caught up with various unhealthy elements, such as the Taliban. I don’t know how sophisticated David’s understanding was, but he went through a long period of religious training in Pakistan and was told that the Taliban were pure Islam.
RP: The letters also show some of his doubts during his stay in Pakistan and then his transformation into an Islamic militant, giving vent to anti-Semitic diatribes about a world Jewish conspiracy.
CL: That’s true.
MORE ON...
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/mar2004/curt-m15.shtml
Where are you Pr?
by gone
Tuesday August 24, 2004 at 10:36 PM
 click to enlarge gone.jpgmz06dm.jpg, image/jpeg, 636x348
The article says "Terry doesn't ask for his son to be freed unconditionally but that he be charged if he has committed a crime, and given the right to defend himself." You are seeing connections in that article which are just not there...
Sins of ommission
by pr
Wednesday August 25, 2004 at 03:51 AM
Evere heard of a Sherlock Holmes case where the main clue is the dog that didn't bark?
What's left out is often what's most important - such as RED and BROWN Holocaust denial. What this dishonest despicable and disgusting GLW ' review' leaves out are well known factoids now...even the Trots of the sect of WSWS have heard of this...
>>> RP: The letters also show some of his doubts during his stay in Pakistan and then his transformation into an Islamic militant, giving vent to anti-Semitic diatribes about a world Jewish conspiracy.
CL: That’s true...<<<
If this particular bunch of RED HOLOCAUST DENIER's, the WSWS can see the bleedin' obvious so, I'm so sure, can our intelligent readers here. Really I can't be bothered with what some moronic troll thinks.
And why should I as a well known schizophrenic with a penchant for genocide, holocaust, aggressive land acquisition i.e. military invasion, nuclear holocaust, death squads, assassination, censorship, spray cans and pen-knife's ?
Go eat shit and die.
I see...
by gone
Wednesday August 25, 2004 at 09:16 AM
That we should not talk about American holocaust. Just red and brown holocaust. Every time human rights in the Middle East is mentioned we MUST mention WWII also. This from the person who has continually talked about the Talliban as if they are on your side and the WTC bombing like it was a wonderfull thing (remember the only people killed were workers - mostly migrants).
"At the Sydney opening, Terry Hicks stressed that his primary concern is the release of all incarcerated in Guantanamo — not just Hicks and Habib, but also the over 500 others."
Stuff pr leaves out
by gone
Wednesday August 25, 2004 at 09:34 AM
What pr really means is that we should not mention genocide against rown people without mentioning genocide against white people.
I notice you do not mention the fact that the US were the ones who created the Mujahadeen in the first place. I notice you do not mention their genocidal policies against their own people (especially women). I notice you do not mention that many Afghanis who were NOT war criminals but just peasants trying to survive fighting between warloards are in Guantanamo. Infact you have rarely mentioned Afghani prisoners in Guantanamo at all...
But every time you leave something out people don't use it as an excuse to call you a fascist. Only you bait and nitpick that way.
Just for the Record
by Dmitri
Wednesday August 25, 2004 at 02:12 PM
Hi pr, On the subject of red holocust, can anyone tell me why Stalin was selected as leader instead of Leon? The standard excuse seems pretty weak, prior to Adolf the main theatre of pogroms was Russia, most people here are Familiar to some extent with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a Tsarist secret service fraud. Others may know about Rasputin's jewish friend and a few other dodgy jews who became the scapegoats of the defeated Russian armies of WW1, back then those despicable jews were helping the Germans, a nice little irony. Oh yeah and for the conespiracy heads, which is the greater blowback: USA support for militant Islam in the Ghan from '79-89 or German secret service putting Lenin on the train to the Finland station?
I talk to the wind
by pr
Thursday August 26, 2004 at 05:53 AM
Talk about whatever you like but don't expect to never get called on stuff this obvious. As far as the American holocaust goes sometimes I feel like the only anarchist in the world who wants to prioritize the American state above say ' Capitalism' or ' Class war " or some other abstraction and spook.
I am enemy of the state - the biggest one first.
Must we mention WW2 all the time?
Of course not but when you leave it out of an article on the problem of occupied Palestine, well your not just open to obvious attack from me but a poultice of Hendersons and rabid Zionists and all their ' useful idiots'. It's a counter productive tactic too leave loopholes like that I could ride my Mountain bike through them.
As far as the Taliban goes, I was the first one here to slag then off in early 2001! Check the archives. I was also early in exposing and sharing the CIA connections and even the Democrats connection - Joe Wilson's war. So don't paint me into that corner simply because a very few of their actions can warrant praise.
( and that praise drives certain trolls nuts! )
I praise the Pentagon hit also NOT the WTC though the WTC did have fair warning. ( 1993 )
It's simply sour grapes for anyone in the GJM NOT to praise the strike on the Pentagon of the great Satan, isn't it?
Your quote from Terry doesn't help yr case either - how many of these Muslims are programmed to attack wimmin, gays and jews onsight?
These prisoners demand our support but not our UNCRITICAL support.
That is what this ' review' appears to be offering and it's got to be a bit suss doesn't it, even if it doesn't disgust you what rank opportunists most of these GLWers seem to be.
I'll be back...
Pr talks wind
by gone
Thursday August 26, 2004 at 10:25 AM
You make a lot of big claimes in your latest post. So I just remind you that last week you wrote a long article where you lumped in the global justice movement with Al Qaida and Columbian and Mexican drug cartels.
"Your quote from Terry doesn't help yr case either - how many of these Muslims are programmed to attack wimmin, gays and jews onsight?"
The point of quoting that was to show that the article was NOT one sided and Terrys dad CAN see the problems with his son.
However as far as the "Talliban fighters" in Guantanamo... Various factions of the Mujahadeen and associated warloards would take over villiages in Afghanistan. Each time they cam into a place they would rape and loot, then execute whoever was "with the other side". So naturally most people who wanted to survive would claim to be with Talliban or Northern Alliance whenever they showed up just in order to survive. Many of the Afghanis in Guantanamo were caught up in the fighting this way. Many are NOT actually "programmed" Mujahadeen at all but just unfortunate people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
award for most pathetic wish-fulfulment fantasy
by %%%%%
Thursday August 26, 2004 at 06:09 PM
pr said: "I am enemy of the state - the biggest one first." what a pathetic wish-fulfilment fantasy! and no doubt my pointing this out will lead to another long-winded, boring, rambling diatribe where pr outlines all his run-ins with the law. i think the reason why pr-type non-activist wank-fantasy revolutionaries hate the socialists so much, and GLW in particular, is that real activism is an unwelcome reminder to these dream-warriors of their own irrelavence.
Yes we have no red herrings
by pr
Thursday August 26, 2004 at 07:41 PM
Anarchists are socialists twit but I see you have an unlimited supply of strawman arguments, red herrings, troll ID's and just general contradictory bs. ..' Wind'
So hows about this for pathetic wish fullfillemnt?
YOU WIN!
HaHaHA! HAPPY NOW TWIT!?
fuck you pr
by Troll ID
Thursday August 26, 2004 at 11:10 PM
I posted a fairly civil response to you pr - %%%% is someone else. Given that half the responses to my posts lately have included insults, threats of sexual violence, long discussions about arse-fucking or paranoia-spreading accusations lately or just trolls just stealing my name I would rather change names regularly now. And don't bitch that I don't post positive responses to your posts anymore because after you decided to post my real name you specifically explained that you do not want my solidarity. But don't expect me not to have opinions. I did not get involved in this stuff to help... It is purely for reasons of self interest that I am involved in the movement - I want things to change. I dont want Howard and Bush to win. I hate them and their boring fascist vision of the future. So DONT expect that I will ever allow a couple of other middle aged white males to stop me doing what I will. And if you try...
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